RME User Forum — Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (MC) — Wed, 21 Dec 2022 12:38:45 +0000

Continued here:

https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=36501

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (headrc) — Fri, 25 Nov 2022 16:38:52 +0000

Thanks ...so the existing Firewire drivers for the Fireface through Firewire to Thunderbolt adapters should work fine then?

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (MC) — Thu, 24 Nov 2022 02:56:27 +0000

Not at all. You need to use FireWire drivers.

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (headrc) — Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:45:15 +0000

Are these the drivers I would use on a new MacBook Pro M1 and using Firewire to Thunderbolt adapters for my Fireface 400? Will this work? Thanks..Richard

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (Quadron) — Wed, 09 Nov 2022 13:29:33 +0000

MC wrote:

You wrote about Sleep - Wake Up, he wrote about turning the unit Off/On. Neither of these fail for us, but in principle would be very different issues.

I know the dfifference, but I have confirmed it anyways! After having turned off/on the TB(driverkit 1.01)-connected UFX+ it isn't detected by macOS anymore.

I've tested on two machines:
1. iMac Pro (Intel) with Ventura (13.0) , detection problems after turning off/on. Maybe some problem with the Apple TB3-TB2 adapter?
2. Macbook Pro M1 with Ventura (13.0), *no* detection problems.

By the way, the USB3 connection with driverkit 4.06 is rock stable on the Intel machine, but I've had the occasional crackling noise while clicking on BT connected mice...

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (MC) — Wed, 09 Nov 2022 08:25:04 +0000

You wrote about Sleep - Wake Up, he wrote about turning the unit Off/On. Neither of these fail for us, but in principle would be very different issues.

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (Quadron) — Tue, 08 Nov 2022 11:42:52 +0000

marcin_c wrote:

MC wrote:
marcin_c wrote:
I checked the new driver. RME UFX +, Thunderbolt connection, iMac Intel i7, macOS Ventura (13.0). For Pro Tools, Logic and WaveLab, and for system sounds (Misic, TV) it seems OK. I have not noticed any problems with the audio. The only problem is when I turn the power off and then back on with the switch, the system does not see UFX +. (TotalMix and Thunderbolt Settings icons are inactive) I need to restart macOS, then everything is OK again. With the 1.21 (1.22) driver, everything works as it should.
Can you try to set the interface mode to Thunderbolt (currently probably Auto) and check if switching off/on the unit shows a different behaviour?
Did not work. Thunderbolt or Auto - the same situation.

I confirm that behavior...

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (marcin_c) — Tue, 08 Nov 2022 09:39:34 +0000

MC wrote:

marcin_c wrote:
I checked the new driver. RME UFX +, Thunderbolt connection, iMac Intel i7, macOS Ventura (13.0). For Pro Tools, Logic and WaveLab, and for system sounds (Misic, TV) it seems OK. I have not noticed any problems with the audio. The only problem is when I turn the power off and then back on with the switch, the system does not see UFX +. (TotalMix and Thunderbolt Settings icons are inactive) I need to restart macOS, then everything is OK again. With the 1.21 (1.22) driver, everything works as it should.
Can you try to set the interface mode to Thunderbolt (currently probably Auto) and check if switching off/on the unit shows a different behaviour?

Did not work. Thunderbolt or Auto - the same situation.

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (MC) — Tue, 08 Nov 2022 08:49:14 +0000

marcin_c wrote:

I checked the new driver. RME UFX +, Thunderbolt connection, iMac Intel i7, macOS Ventura (13.0). For Pro Tools, Logic and WaveLab, and for system sounds (Misic, TV) it seems OK. I have not noticed any problems with the audio. The only problem is when I turn the power off and then back on with the switch, the system does not see UFX +. (TotalMix and Thunderbolt Settings icons are inactive) I need to restart macOS, then everything is OK again. With the 1.21 (1.22) driver, everything works as it should.

Can you try to set the interface mode to Thunderbolt (currently probably Auto) and check if switching off/on the unit shows a different behaviour?

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (kd) — Mon, 07 Nov 2022 22:21:15 +0000

mlprod wrote:

Does anybody know when Apple will actually go forward with banning kernel drivers? They sure haven't done it yet in Ventura.

All components OS should not be able to be saved in the future.
Starting with OS11, you can no longer create an image of the OS.
So you have to take the drivers out of the kernel if you want to fully implement this.

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (mlprod) — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:16:32 +0000

Does anybody know when Apple will actually go forward with banning kernel drivers? They sure haven't done it yet in Ventura.

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (marcin_c) — Fri, 04 Nov 2022 13:35:23 +0000

I checked the new driver. RME UFX +, Thunderbolt connection, iMac Intel i7, macOS Ventura (13.0). For Pro Tools, Logic and WaveLab, and for system sounds (Misic, TV) it seems OK. I have not noticed any problems with the audio. The only problem is when I turn the power off and then back on with the switch, the system does not see UFX +. (TotalMix and Thunderbolt Settings icons are inactive) I need to restart macOS, then everything is OK again. With the 1.21 (1.22) driver, everything works as it should.

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (bharding) — Mon, 24 Oct 2022 22:36:14 +0000

I have an update for my last post. Today I am experimenting with MacOS Ventura. I created a new external drive setup and tried loading this latest beta 1.0.1. This time it loaded correctly and I have both the driver and total mix running fine under Ventura. By fine I mean I have tested it for like 5 minutes so far playing back music from Amazon Prime, but it did load and seems to be working. So I'm still not sure what went wrong on my Monterey build but this one working under Ventura! It will be some time before I can test the many other aspects but I just wanted to set the story straight on the loading issues I no longer appear to have.

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (bharding) — Tue, 18 Oct 2022 23:33:13 +0000

I just tried loading the beta 1.0.1 driver on my Mac Studio M1 after updating the firmware on my UFX+.
The install had a lot of dialog boxes come up asking for permissions which I allowed. Upon reboot everything seemed to be working except Thunderbolt Settings could not launch. That app doesn't seem to be necessary any longer because the UFX+ seemed to be working fine. I never got a message asking to give it permissions. Anyway I tried uninstalling using the uninstaller back to 1.2.1 and re-loading it. I even tried re-loading twice w/o removing and that second time I didn't get any system permission dialog and it said it was successful. Anyway I decided to revert back to 1.2.1 for now which still seems to work fine with the new firmware on the UFX+. I just thought I should mention that I was unsuccessful to fully in stall the new beta. What is strange is that the UFX+ used to not work w/o the settings app running at least that is what I thought. It always auto launches under 1.2.1. I was just prepping my system for the coming MacOS 13 update that is just around the corner and I get messages from the OS saying my drivers are obsolete or something along those lines. Hope this information helps.

Re: Reboot - New macOS RME Thunderbolt driver – public beta test

null@example.com (darkinners) — Fri, 07 Oct 2022 07:33:18 +0000

Performance wise seems improved a bit compared to the 1.21 Thunderbolt driver on M1 Max CPU.
on 1.21 I couldn't get Thunderbolt to work under 128 samples or lower, it will click/crackle randomly in DAW even under a relatively light load. (2 instances of U-He Diva) need 256 to be 100% safe, whereas USB3 connection can have 32 samples with 10+ instances of U-He Diva without any crackling/clicks, both at a 48kHz sample rate.

this 1.01 beta driver managed to have the same performance as the USB3 connection down to 64 samples.
32 samples, however still have random crackle/clicks and high CPU spike compared to USB3 connection.