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			<title><![CDATA[Re: input interface + DAC: MADI vs Dante/aggregate device]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?pid=220408#p220408</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the detailed reply ramses.&nbsp; </p><p>Our use case is a bit of a &quot;non-standard&quot; setup, so perhaps a more detailed description would help.&nbsp; I&#039;m setting up this audio dome as part of a lab where we study the relationship between the brain and spoken language (speech comprehension, tinnitus, etc.), so we&#039;re working a lot with neuroimaging and audiometry.&nbsp; The goal is to be able to create highly naturalistic and controllable &quot;adverse listening situations&quot; using spatial audio while also measuring subjects EEG data.</p><p>So essentially, I need to be able to get a lot of (but certainly less than 64) audio channels from Max/MSP out of the control room to the listening room next door where the dome is.&nbsp; The mic inputs would just be for talkback between the rooms, and headphones and/or a pair of some small speakers in the control room would be to monitor the trials remotely.</p><p>My plan with Dante would be simply to connect the experiment laptop directly to the M32 DA without any switch to simplify things.&nbsp; Before that (before considering the need for mic ins/headphone outs) I was going to use a MADIface USB, and then I looked into the MADIface XT, but that seems not to be so available(?), plus as you said, the cost is almost the same as a UFX III.</p><p>I&#039;ve used Dante in the past in another room I setup, so I figured it could be a more flexible and &quot;modern&quot; option, but it has also caused some weird buggy issues, so I&#039;m a bit more weary of using it here, as this new setup really needs to work reliably (w/o having to verify that wifi is off, or restarting DVS, etc).&nbsp; So I think I&#039;ve just talked myself into just biting the bullet and going for the UFX III.</p><p>thanks again for the advice!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: input interface + DAC: MADI vs Dante/aggregate device]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?pid=220360#p220360</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I would use a proven MADI installation over dedicated multimode fiber (OM3 or OM4): UFX III and M-32 Pro II DA.<br />Then you have the audio data split from any other network traffic.<br />Dante might also need configuration of QoS on your switches (IF they allow).<br />You save a little money by not having to buy the Dante version of M-32.</p><br /><p>UFX III-------------MADI-----&gt;----------M-32 Pro II DA<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;+--------------MADI-----&lt;-------------+</p><br /><p>Option 2:</p><p>If you would get &quot;AVB tool&quot; (to get mic inputs) from a shop or used market, then another option might be:</p><p>MADIface USB---MADI---&gt;AVB Tool---MADI---&gt;M-32 Pro II DA<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +---------------MADI--------&lt;----------------+</p><br /><p>Option 3:</p><p>MADIface XT--------------MADI---------&gt;----------M-32 Pro II DA<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +---------------MADI---------&lt;---------------+</p><br /><p>UFX III €2689<br />MADIface USB €849 + AVB Tool&nbsp; €1554 = €2403 (better get the UFX III for a few bucks more)<br />MADIface XT €2299 (a new updated device is on the way, maybe also here better to get UFX III for a few bucks more)</p><p>With the UFX III you have 4 superior Mic inputs up to 75 dB gain range, excellent AD/DA converter.<br />DURrec might be used for playback instead of having to use a PC, depening on what you intend to do.<br />You have one MADI bus to use the M32 Pro either at single or double speed.<br />If you need even more MADI buses, check out MADIface XT.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (ramses)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2024 18:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[input interface + DAC: MADI vs Dante/aggregate device]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?pid=220358#p220358</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, I’m setting up a multichannel speaker dome in a lab as part of a university research project, and I have a question about how best to configure the system:</p><p>In short, I need to have at least 17 output channels to speakers (plus headphones in the control room) and 2 mic inputs - hopefully the total channel count will go up as we get more funding in the future.&nbsp; My plan is to use an RME M-32 AD Pro II-D to feed 16x Meyer MM-4XP speakers via 2x Meyer MPS-488xX power supplies plus one Meyer MM-10AC subwoofer directly.&nbsp; The system will be driven by a M3 mac.</p><p>My question is on how best to feed audio to the to the D/A converter.&nbsp; After doing some more research I’ve come up with two possible solutions:</p><p>1) Use a RME UFX III and connect to the DAC via MADI<br />2) Create an aggregate device using a RME UCX II and Dante and connecting to the DAC via Dante</p><p>Option 1 would certainly be simpler, but it feels a bit ridiculous to buy such an expensive interface to just use 2 analog ins and the headphone output and we could use the budget for other things.&nbsp; Option 2 would be cheaper, but I’m not so sure about the stability of using an RME + Dante aggregate device like that; I’ve done it without any problems once or twice in the past, but just for a day or two, not for a permanent installation like this that should just be plug and play from a laptop.&nbsp; Also, it would require having a Dante license for any laptop that needs to connect, which is just a minor inconvenience I guess.</p><p>Does anyone have any intuition on this?&nbsp; Does the Dante aggregate option sound reasonable or better to just go with the UFX + MADI?&nbsp; Or can you think of some other better solution that I’m missing (e.g. is it possible to directly daisy chain devices directly)?</p><p>thanks,<br />-eric</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2024 17:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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