You can store a Totalmix configuration mixer setting into the unit.

Got it. I'll dig the manual and see how snapshots and workspace differ.

Yup, I got Digicheck working on the M1 as well, so everything works now.

Do you think that could have come from the firmware flash mismatch after all?
I never really have worked with Firewire before but my friends told me about that protocol being quite peaky in both senses.
Things clearly got better once I could get that flash working fine!

I'll do that if it glitches again, which I hope not!

cheerz

You can store a Totalmix configuration mixer setting into the unit.

For testing the analog inputs and outputs you better connect the interface to a computer, one that works with Totalmix.

How can one find out where exactly the horrible noise got created ? Not easy to make tests in standalone where all the software playback channels are cancelled out.

At the end, best is to send in the device to an RME service partner in your country.

Thank you for your help, I have managed to make something sound good on my M1 Sequoia iMac running Ableton.
I gotta believe all the tweaking was somehow useful!
I've been able to flash update update my sound card and test different hardware audio input tracks, and I got to dive a bit with Total Mix FX docs, but I definitely will not comprehend how those glitchy noises were happening, and somehow the trip was nice:

- In the beginning I could not hear anything,
- Then I got the horrible noises,
- Tried on older hardware, no adapters,
- Tried on various OS configs,
- Finally got the occasion to flash update and run total Mix to standalone mode.

I'll keep testing and diving into the unit and see whether it is indeed faulty, or if just me being impatient, or stoopid (likely both)

I once again thank you for your support and own patience!
Happy 2K26

I had an even older iMac from early 2007, it also has a firewire port but the OS version would be too old for Reaper, right?

No, you can download Reaper 32 bit for MacOS Intel computer
or download a LogicPro 8 version from somewhere.

For downloading older versions of RME drivers simply edit the version number in the download link.

So what works or not you have to find out yourself...

Got it! That was my geekery mention earlier.

Sorry I thought the macmini6,2 was clear enough since it's the actual exact model name implying Intel CPU and late 2012.
Anyways thank you for answering fast, I'll let you know, as I said, what will be working flawlessly for similar ff800 users.

Last question, do you still provide older drivers for these old computers (2007, 2012 Apple) ?

I've now tested the unit on other Firewire computers and may detail everything about these glitches happening all the time, that'll be another topic which is now unrelated to M1/MacOS 15.X  configurations (translations won't be necessary!)

Thanks again. A lot!
Cheers

I got that macmini6,2 running without the adapters (it has been patched to macOS 12, though, because it's not running up to date programs otherwise, including RME drivers, right?).

Translated: Mac Mini 2012 with Intel CPU, OpenCoreLegacyPatcher used to run a later, unsupported OS (Monterey). This kind of stuff can not be supported by us. So what works or not you have to find out yourself...

The glitch happening has the almost the same tone for any sample rate configuration on both Macs, even though I'm testing with the system sounds and any DAW (I'm reading the docs to get the playback running without a DAW at the moment), I'll try on some old friend's firewire computers too, see if that unit is faulty.

I haven't mentioned I had an even older iMac from early 2007, it also has a firewire port but the OS version would be too old for Reaper, right?

I reckon using old hardware does have its limits, I'm trying my best to acquire a 802 and get rid of these issues.

At this point even Audacity would be worth trying

lucasroane wrote:

how the heck could you prevent Apple from removing your FireWire drivers while you kept updating and upgrading your setup?

Apple does not remove your installed stuff. they don't clean up the mess of the customers in their computers.
The firewire driver needs some kind of infrastructure in the MacOS to work, in the new Tahoe this part has vanished.
Good luck for your plan.
I also think it would be great to use the FF800 for longer time, may be as an Adat converter in standalone-mode at the end.
As long you have a computer that works for this interface you can upload a Totalmix setting into the unit for this use case.

Yeah, now that I've got the Mac mini working I can also try to activate the standalone mode just to hear if I have those glitches again.
Thank you for your help, this page definitely helped a lot understanding the weird ways Apple is dealing with its own protocols, and man, this is annoying....

I would have loved a regular firewire usage on the most recent architecture, I should anticipate this material would be reliable for another 20 years so I can blame the next gen users

cheerz! thanks a lot and we wish you a happy new year

I'm out anyway.

I was OK with that literally years ago, but you keep commenting so politely, this topic definitely needs your very opinion because it turns out I've had followed the procedure properly but I concluded I got a bad material: the glitch sound occurring on M1 is also happening on the other computers I've tested the sound card, so it might be a PSU issue turns out I was doing the right things lol

- Nope. Absolutely not, I am geeking around *because* I want a normal solid setup so I can geek around my synths.
- Using an older Mac mini was simply a way out, as of installing Windows there enjoying the firewire plugs.

- Apple already did that plenty of time. Wouldn't surprise anyone. Like for example, removing any 32 bit support from Catalina lol.

I never said you did something wrong: I beg ur pardon for being a Fresh Install Guy, which is  kind of a thing in IT I believe.

Now. Tell me about having an attitude...

Ahh yes. More internet policing.
Not to mention I've read your declaration with my best accent. My bad!

I'll investigate those high frequency audio glitches now and hope for the best.
Happy new year again.

… I'll keep geeking around …

You are obviously more interested in "geeking around" than simply having a working setup. You have a broken system and that is your own fault and responsibility.

At the same time you are telling me my setup only works because I did something wrong and it was only luck? The Earth is flat and only you know it?

Regular system updates do not remove something the user installed.

That is the right thing to do. I have been using Macs for 35 years now going the straight way without any problems. No hacking, geeking, fumbling. Because I had to earn my living with these machines every day.

I can't imagine you will find someone here who will help you with your attitude, but I wish you good luck.

I'm out anyway.

how the heck could you prevent Apple from removing your FireWire drivers while you kept updating and upgrading your setup?

Apple does not remove your installed stuff. they don't clean up the mess of the customers in their computers.
The firewire driver needs some kind of infrastructure in the MacOS to work, in the new Tahoe this part has vanished.
Good luck for your plan.
I also think it would be great to use the FF800 for longer time, may be as an Adat converter in standalone-mode at the end.
As long you have a computer that works for this interface you can upload a Totalmix setting into the unit for this use case.

Sorry man, but I just kept respecting das Verfahrenstechnik until I eventually posted here + got confused with Apple's mind games.
- Whenever I got the driver to work with both my adapters, I cannot not see my input tracks on the DAW
- I couldn't figure out what the glitch noise on the output was either, and still is happening on that "brand new" 2020's M1 computer.

You definitely got lucky from your previous installation which got me thinking, how the heck could you prevent Apple from removing your FireWire drivers while you kept updating and upgrading your setup?

IMHO it all comes from 'updating' your configuration using the built-in tools.
I'll keep geeking around till ff800 works on my non-fresh install, I can keep you updated if you like. I understand the fatigue tho

… I'm going to keep trying until I get anything to work …

Stop this nonsense and make straight and official installations. Then things will work.

Once again: I have an iMac M1, the adapters, a Firefice 800 with latest firmware and driver, the latest version of MacOS Sequoia and the latest version of Logic Pro X. Everything works flawlessly from day one with this hardware setup and configuration (and before). I never had to do any system clean re-installs, driver re-installations, re-configurations, hacks, tricks or whatever.

Not especially, of course, I had other stuff going on, like 3 Elektron Overbridge instances, but that's all. I'm not truly a VST guy, tho

Right now the most stable OS version I have running for a macmini6,2 is Catalina, made with some patcher, but it's too old for the drivers and Ableton12. Trying to upgrade that machine to Big Sur may bring more CPU/GPU issues

Downgrading the M1 is not an option yet
So I just think I'm stuck between two generations, like zoomers and boomers in a waiting room lol

I'm going to keep trying until I get anything to work decently with this Interface.
It's a quality device that deserves to live 20 like more years!