Topic: 2 pieces of RAYDAT

Hi

i have been searching on info on this simple question, in both manuals without luck, i cant find the full specs for RAYDAT, so:

Can i have 2 (all 4 cards) HDSPe RayDAT in my beloved motherboard ASUS TUF Z270 MK1? anoyone know this?

2 (edited by ramses 2024-11-03 21:37:38)

Re: 2 pieces of RAYDAT

The RayDAT is a PCIe card with a daughter card connected by ribbon cable to the main card.

The daughter card doesn't need an additional PCIe socket on your main board in terms of electrical connection, but it would be good for stabilizing it in the slot. The daughter card can be placed wherever you want as long as the ribbon cable is long enough.

You can check it on your own if your combination of case and mainboard is feasible to take two RayDAT.

Depending on your other components, you might need the optional WC card, which is also connected by ribbon cable to one of the two main cards.

The two cards need to be clock synchronized and in the driver settings you need to configure the same (ASIO) buffer size..
The clock synchronization can be performed internal, see manual.

The two cards have no internal connection, there is nothing like a backplane, so you have to work with two TM FX instances (either in one or in two separate windows) and route channels from one card to the other through the DAW.
Or you have to provide cross connections between the cards by using ADAT I/O (ADAT offers transfer of 8 ch @single speed).

General information about clock synchronization, see my blog:
https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/ent … ios-en-de/

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub14

3 (edited by kim 2024-11-04 07:25:18)

Re: 2 pieces of RAYDAT

ok thanks, I will remember that.
I was looking for specs on the RAYDAT PCI Express card itself, to see if the specs match my motherboard and how many I can put in.

My motherboard:
2 x PCI Express 3.0/2.0 x16 slots (single at x16 or dual at x8/x8
meeting)
1 x PCI Express 3.0/2.0 x16 slot (max. at x4 mode, compatible with
PCIe x1, x2 and x4 devices)
3 x PCI Express 3.0/2.0 x1 slots

4 (edited by ramses 2024-11-04 10:17:42)

Re: 2 pieces of RAYDAT

Yes such information seems to be missing indeed.

But don't worry about this. Audio has not that high throughput demand, even the HDSPe MADI FX with 3x MADI uses PCIe 1.1 x1 according to RME archive site.

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub14

Re: 2 pieces of RAYDAT

anyone in RME that knows the pci specs plz?

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Re: 2 pieces of RAYDAT

PCIe 1.1. So far we did not use anything else.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: 2 pieces of RAYDAT

thanks, yes I can see it is more than enough for audio:

Generation    Year of Release    Data Transfer Rate    Bandwidth x1    Bandwidth x16
PCIe 1.0               2003                       2.5 GT/s                250 MB/s          4.0 GB/s


my rather old motherboard can still use it

just a notice
i use usb extensions, the other day i connected another one, and in the startup there was a bios message, it said there is a short circuit in a usb and PC will be shut down

i have never seen that before! :-)

so i unplugged the usb, and put it in my expensive asus laptop from 2022, there was no warning, the laptop startet as normal, the usb just didnt work

8 (edited by vinark 2024-11-06 10:14:13)

Re: 2 pieces of RAYDAT

I have seen that once years ago. I think it was a defective USB hub just as yours also on a desktop. Desktops have more bios functions then laptops.
I guess the laptop has protection on hardware level and just cuts power to the port when a short is detected.

Vincent, Amsterdam
https://soundcloud.com/thesecretworld
BFpro fs, 2X HDSP9652 ADI-8AE, 2X HDSP9632