The official Babyface Pro Thread (Page 32 of 33)

https://www.thomann.es/arturia_audiofuse_x8_in.htm

This converter only has inputs; I want it to have outputs as well, but thank you.

Thanks

Excellent, what subwoofer do you use?

Hi - I have a Babyface Pro FS connected to my Mac Studio. The audio is regularly interrupted, like maybe the driver has briefly crashed. It especially happens when the machine is loaded. This is the third or fourth audio interface I've had, and I've never had this problem with any others. I just updated the driver (and OS) and it is still happening.

I assume this is not expected behavior and that others aren't experiencing it.

Any recommendations for how I might debug?

Thanks.

would someone point me to some video, or tutorial, about proper gain staging on the Hi-z inputs. Simple, to the point pragmatic stuff.

Also, a yes or no is enough, can I use Totalmix to route a signal seamlessly on Babyface, like with the FireFace. I want to create a bus from the mono  analog inputs to a digital stereo pair, to monitor my guitar in stereo.

thanks, in advance.

Try output channels 3/4 those should be the headphone

If you switch off CC-mode and connect the interface to the Mac normal-mode and open the Audio-Midi-Setup, what does it show ?
Does the Fireface USB Setting open ?
Does Totalmix open ?

To everyone who wants to install a driver software from RME :
There is a readme text file in the download folder with each driver. Read it and follow it.

This was only ever applicable on the US or North American market, check with the local distributor there if that's where you are.

May you provide a screenshot of the Audio-Midi-Setup ?

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You bring up driver installation, but now you bring screenshots with class compliant connection issues.

You did not answer previous questions.

If Copy-mode is enabled, disable it for a test, see page 91 in the user manual.

The Audio-Midi-Setup is an application in MacOS not part of Cubase.

Please switch the unit into normal-mode not CC-mode.

Use the interface normal as it is made for together with Totalmix.

And here is the gain setting for the instrument inputs

I am not on Apple. Maybe that there is no signal in headphones as they are 3/4 and iOS outputs to 1/2 which is "main out". People using iOS would know better....

Concerning the guitar input. If signal is too hot from amplyfier/effect, you do not need  DI, attenuator would do. Something like for example this.
https://www.tritonaudio.com/product/airhead/

    Once, I referenced those selections. I choose -10 because it´s supposed to be a Hi-Z input, should be like a real amp, completely oblivious of my pickup output, and then, on TM, I´m supposed to boost it so I don´t starve the converters, and subtract on my recording gear the exact same amount, so the structure of the signal keeps its integrity, and the Ampsims could do their job of simulating an amp.

     Again, I think there is a methodology behind that goes way over my head. Because i don´t need boosting, and if I have to use the +4db line attenuation, i only can do it "properly" with a DI feeding the interface.

    Notice, I´m not saying the interface is wrong. I´m saying I don´t understand its gain structure, and it´s not appropriate for modern active, or high output passive guitars, as it is. And, if I noticed before buying I wouldn´t keep it for myself.

    I guess others tolerate that behavior or found out a way to work with it. the only solution I got was to back off a little the guitar volume knob, but sometimes i want to have it fully on, and i can´t do it without compromises.

Thanks, but I believe that´s what I wante to do on BabyFace, being able to set the gain myself, but it seems to be locked to -10, the supposed DI input, +4, the line input, and another with a Db boost.

I came from a Zen Q, and I set the gain as you set on the UFXs, and 12 micpre. the exact figures were around 12 or 30 db boosting, with clean signal, then I did the math on Cubase inputs and take off the same amount I gave previously.

that´s my workflow, the guitars sound great, volume is nice, but I want to be in control.

   however, even if the clipping wasn´t happening the signal seems to be boosted, I want to know if that perception is wrong or right, and what´s the amount of the boosting, so I can give my software the correct information.

     Thank you, I tried with a passive DI on the mic input, and i´m able to set the adequate gain levels for my setup, with plenty headroom.

     But, mysteriously, the Hi-z input on the Babyface seems to be more "conventional" now, for the lack of better words, but with limited headroom.

     I didn´t test yet any active PUs, perhaps things get better. I don´t set aside myself doing mistakes, since it is a sophisticated piece of equipment with some learning curve.

    incidentally, the guys where I shop the interface messaged me asking how am I liking the interface, I´m going to tell them what´s happening. I´m a little frustrated because I can´t believe this lack of headroom.   

     Those interfaces you recommended are overkill to my setup, I already have enough i/o for a rock band, that´s all I need. But, I´m willing to investigate further the RME lineup. I already own a Fireface the original 800, and Totalmix left great memories.

I’m using a cheap passive DI on input 1, I tried both with the pad on and off, no clipping on either setting, so I kept going with the pad off, and I rose the gain 35db without clipping.

     Then I got back to try the BFP Hi-z, and no headroom, but it didn’t clip, it might be because I was playing fingerstyle, or using less strength plucking. I don’t think the DI could have any interference on this scenario.

      This morning I went back at it, the pad seems to muffle the sound, I´m not quite sure if it just lowers it, but it feels like a slight roll off on the guitar volume, taking out the poisonous frequencies that might set back rhythm playing to a uncontrollable mess, but sometimes I like it fully open.Frankly, most of the times, as I might dial down the gain on the software I´m using. The hi-z input returned to its behavior, it shows clipping every time i hit the strings harder, and on the lower strings most of the time, both on +4dbu, or -10dbv. They sound both quite well, but clipping shows its ugly face. nevertheless, rarely the green goes past 22db, but then the red starts to warn me about clipping.

I wonder, am I right, are the meters right? but that shouldn´t be an issue, when I purchased the BFP, I thought I was buying into no problem, straightforward flexible setup. Until now, that´s not the case.

I heard the Hi-z input lack of headroom was by request of the forum members, and done with a firmware update. It doesn´t seem they thought it well enough.

Thanks for your concern and advice.

Yes, my previous interface supported +20db input, versus the +13db of the BFP. The input clips at the +4db setting, not as much but it clips, I was considering using that option. But this an obvious downgrade of my signal path. I already contacted the seller. I have no more issues with the BFP.

BTW, every interface on this price bracket, or format, like the UltraLite, Symponhy Duet 3, Apollos have such limitation, it seems they are not targeting guitar players, with modern high gain pickups. The exceptions are very scarce.

In standalone it has no 8-channel-ADAT the optical port is reduced to stereo, only Adat channels 1/2 will work.

So it can be a standalone expander for 2 analog inputs XLR mic and two analog Line outputs XLR.

In standalone-mode there are no driver conflicts as there is no computer involved.

And further Adat expanders are not useful in standalone-mode because of the "only 2 channels"

You did not tell about the computer.
On a Mac you create an aggregate device and it will work together with the other gear.
On Windows it is different.