Try the new version 1.20 found in the TotalMix FX section of this forum.

Hi I have just tried this new version 1.20 beta 4 Mac OSX on my macbook pro running 10.11.2 , everything works with the UCX on the USB port but when I disconnected the UCX to put the Babyface pro, the driver does not mount so I cannot use my babyface Pro anymore !
So I should revert to the previous Totalmix , I thought it was 1.20 but could I down it like I did for the beta one or should I download again the USB driver which I think contains this previous version of Totalmix?

Thanks again for your quick answer,  sorry it was not a problem of Totalmix at all but of but an hardware connection!
when I returned to my previous version it was the same so I thought that my most cherished babyface had a problem even being powered on by the Mac (LED were lit) , I tried to power it by my power supply I am using in stand alone mode and it was the same no driver mounted on the desktop! By chance I touch and press on the USB plug on the babyface and miracle the driver appears !
Anyway what is  a concern to me is that I pushed the USB  plug  only a 1/4 of mm to make the thing work ! i.e. with the plug only slightly out the Babyface is powered (so you think everything OK) but the USB data BUS is not !  and if this BUS connection RELIES on a contact at 1/4 mm precision there is something wrong in the electrical contact design or on my Babyface?  As former electrical engineer I would have thought was the cross section of electrical contact on the connections should be on several millimeters at least (I an not aware of the Standard on USB connectors anyway)
AMG

OK but the one I am using is the one SOLD with the Babyface Pro I bought on the 7/10/2015 !
Is it faulty in such a short period of time?
I would be glad if RME could send me another USB cable ! Could be done where I bought it : Home Studio , 39/41 rue Victor Massé 75009  Paris !
Many thanks in advance
AMG

Hi again! Yes you are totally right but to me it does not seem that the "snaps in" is very tight , it is not loose but I expected, according to the rme advertising, to have something more robust  as I do not see too much difference with another USB connection really...
BTW having the opportunity to speak to you I wonder if rme has the intention to sell a Babyface without DSP for a reduced price? For my personnel case I very seldom use the DSP as I could do everything within my WaveLab software, the only special feature on the Babyface I use very often is the Looback capability to record any sofware into Wavelab!
On the contrary I use a lot the Dynamics  with the UCX  for intput as well as  output in my studio.
Regards. AMG

> What were you thinking???

I think you could have give it back if it disturbs you so much and buy another one instead.
When looking at other manufacturers it appears to me quite usual, that those interfaces have no power switch.
If the PC is being turned on, you work with the unit. If you turn it off, the unit is off.
If you dont want to use it for some time, you plug it off .. its an interface for mobility designed anyway.

Your computer includes settings (usually in the BIOS) to enable power share, which is currently set on, to charge phones etc. even when the PC is off. Disable that and the BF Pro will also turn off.

Guys, thank you for your help, I'm sorry for being stupid and not trying that thing with USB allways on option, and for calling out RME like that. I guess I deserve to be kicked in the but.

reread yourself and you will understand why i'm pissed.
hehehe RME just don't care about their own customer needs..

like if we want xlr to rca special adapters/ having to balance volume for both stereo out etc.. etc.. and gain unbalanced on rca need to be equal cdj-2000 gain for christ sake.. DAH!!!.. but we still need the balanced out for the studio..

when you have 10min to plug yourself live in front of 1000p.. better have something PERFECT AND ADEQUATE for the TASK.

i had the first babyface .. the dac sucked compared to cdj-2000.. too harsh .. i hope you truly fixed that and that it's on par with pro audiofile dacs.. lot's of stuff i didnt like of that card

the only reason i'm looking into it is because your the only one with low latency, low cpu, stable drivers for windows that i would trust for a show.

now let's hope that their dac is top notch this time.. i'll compare it with pro dacs..

but yeah the fact that they didnt even take the time to understand the need of your consumers is ... WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE BUY THE BABYFACE PRO.. it's a portable card.. it's both for GIGS and for studio..

-- I'm not here to pat RME in the back and make them feel good about themselves.

you think we only have this to do.. write on forums.??? we are not their beta testers and product managers etc..

it's their job to do the research and work, not ours. Seriously paying so much for a product that will give me so much headache live.. it's making me mad.

Is there any improvement to the instrument input (and converters) on the Babyface Pro compared to the original Babyface?
Would recording guitar and bass direct signals have better results with the Pro model?

Or does it have instrument inputs at all, looks like it only says "line inputs"?

Hvat would be the tonal difference for guitar pickups due to ohm differences?

Yes.

If you use the iPad app you get an Input Mute button, but not on the unit itself.

You are sure that you raised the Mix level of the right input channel?

My question is if you are sure that in the Mix function the right meter was flashing when trying to raise the mix volume (not the input gain). There is no reason why that shouldn't work, and it does on mine.

On a related note, there doesn't seem to be a way to route mono sources to both sides of a stereo output with direct monitoring from the unit! This limits the usefulness of the Babyface Pro in class compliant and stand-alone modes. I could understand how sending mono outputs would make sense when using the Babyface just for its preamps in standalone mode and sending mono outputs to a mixer, but it is awkward if the Babyface is plugged into a stereo system. This behavior doesn't make sense for the headphone output. IMO the default should be to route direct monitoring to both sides of a stereo output, with some way to control panning if mono outputs or an uneven output is desired.

I recently invited a singer to sing over my DJ set with my Babyface plugged into my laptop running GNU/Linux, but her voice was only amplified by one speaker. I could route the signal through my computer to have it go to both sides, but that would negate the benefit of direct monitor's extremely low latency. I also ran into this issue when my friend tried to test how her electric guitar would sound in headphones through the Babyface's preamp in stand-alone mode. Disappointingly, the guitar could only be heard on one side of the headphones.

I hope this issue is fixed in a firmware update.

I understand the desire to keep the controls on the Babyface simple and not overcomplicate them, but I don't really understand what good direct monitoring to one mono channel is except for a niche use of sending the output to the line input of a mixer that doesn't have as good of a mic preamp as the Babyface. If the controls on the Babyface stayed exactly the same as they are, but mono sources were routed to both sides of the stereo outputs, that use would still be possible by just plugging one cable into the Babyface's output. The only downside would be if someone wanted to use more than one of the Babyface's preamps and control the mixing all from another mixer that the Babyface would plug into, but the levels could still be controlled on the Babyface in that case.

Using an iPad is not really an option for me because I don't have one and wouldn't have any use for one other than this really specific purpose. Also, the manual specifically says that an intended use of stand alone mode is to use the Babyface as a stand alone preamp. This shouldn't require plugging the Babyface Pro into another device to hear it on both sides of a stereo system.

There are other sound cards compatible with Linux that support direct monitoring of mono sources on stereo outputs, but I don't think any sound nearly as good as the Babyface Pro. If you don't want to add any complications to the controls on the Babyface, could you please change the firmware to make stereo direct monitoring the default when enabled from the unit? Are there any potential downsides to that other than what I already described above? I don't mind borrowing a computer running another OS for a few minutes to update firmware.

Is there any way to improve latency in CC mode?
I have been testing with an iPhone 5s, audiobus, insert reverb and Loopy, and the latency is really noticeable. Sometimes I need to remove and re-insert the reverb to get better results too.
If I set buffer in Audiobus to 128 rather than 256 I get pops and clicks. It seems Loopy's buffer is being added to this latency?
I looked around and didnt find any definitive reports about this.
I'm planning to get an iPad specifically for live looping using voice, guitar and percussion so it needs to be tight!
Would another interface be able to operate with an iPad using optimised drivers? That might be another option for me..

I am guessing the bottleneck here is the iPad's CPU. I don't know if very low latency audio would be possible with any sound card on it. I could be wrong though.

Latency on iOS can be low, but the app needs to support that, and not many do. And like on any other OS, rerouting calls for multiple buffers = multiple latency times.

1. Yes.
2. Yes. UCX via ADAT I/O to the Babyface, handling everything from the BF Pro. Clocking for sync is needed anyway.

You can do it that way as well.

Is it okay to leave my BF Pro on 24/7? I never turn off my computer.

Many thanks.

Hi;

May anyone of the Babyface-Developers tell me how the Volume-Controls for the Main Outputs are designed?
Are they digitally controlled? Which might be logical due to Total-Mix?
If so, digitally controlled Volume reduction usually leads to Bit-Depth reduction.

Is it recommended to keep Babyfaces Main Output Levels at 0 db and reduce the Volume for Monitoring afterwards (Analog Device, etc.) to keep the full 24 Bit Dynamic Range?

I try to find any Information of that matter in your specified Documents, but i can´t.
Would be great if you can say something about that...

Thanks for your support,
Greetings from Thailand...

*S.

Correct. You might also try a different USB output on your computer first.