torbenscharling wrote:Just as with A, with C: In theory, there’s no actual “maximum.” However, if you go beyond 3 meters (about 10 feet), your signal will start to degrade. The longer you extend the cable, the lower the speed and the less power it will provide. This gives you a little bit of wiggle room if all you’re doing is sending a signal. For example, if you need to send a security camera feed, a 20-foot run is probably doable, assuming minimal interference. On the other hand, if that feed is a 4K camera with two-way audio, you might have an issue. And if that camera requires the USB cable for power, you’re definitely going to have trouble
So ya I guess if 1 meter more is important, USB2 wins in the long run……
When I remember one of the last USB discussions back then KaiS even told, that with e.g. USB3 you can even have bad luck, that the 3m (told by specs) can't be reached successfully, might also depend on the cable and shielding.
I was only concerned about tiny looking USB-C plug and that along with this at USB2 speed you have length restriction compared to the old USB plug.
As far as I know USB2 allows 5m for whatever speed you choose. Same for the USB3 and 3m.
On the long run the "latest and greatest will win", what the industry delivers to you.
And during the crisis, what the industry can manufacure and deliver to you.
Later I have to take, same as everybody else, what RME choosed for whatever reason
EDIT: and I give you another example. Operational reasons.
Whenever you get higher transmission speeds you see two things
- shorter length
- the need for better shielding, for USB3 you even get cables from Lindy with 3 shields
If you have now such a tiny plug, but a relatively stiff cable because of the required shielding, then this is not good for the handling.
The best example what I mean is if you look at the stiff Sommer Cable TOSLINK cables. At the first glimpse you think wonder ful quality, good thick mantle to protect the cable. But when you actually use it then you see, that the stiff cables have more disadvantages than advantages when using it. The cables are
- so thick, that you have problems to plug several of them into UFX+/RayDAT where you have a few ADAT ports in a row at close distance
- so stiff, that the cable lays not well instead of this puts a bending force to the plug at the device so that you fear to damage something at the ADAT port
Back to copper cable (this toslink was only another bad example). Therefore for me personally .. high speed transfer and tiny plugs on copper cables is something that I do not really like for operational reasons.
Wherever you look into the industry .. tiny has many advantages. Even Apple recognized that and made the laptops in the latest generation at least a little bit higher in terms of the volume.
Small is only beautiful inside of the chips as small structures reduce energy demands, but is ofc more and more difficult to reach more and more progress and to stay stable and still get a good yield during production.
BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub13