@MC was this a crazy suggestion? :-)

brain 1/2 and brain 3/4.

Seriously, what's with the request. I have thought about the following and find it rather unnecessary.

1st of all, people are creatures of habit, so it would only cause confusion if this were to be changed for these devices after so many years.

Looking at it deeper .. I don't find any mistake there at all. It all corresponds to the usual order schemes.

In terms of the importance of the connections, the main monitor (1/2) comes before the headphone outputs (3/4).
The order in the display corresponds to the numerical order "1/2, then 3/4" and "from left to right" and also regarding the point before, first main monitors, then headphones.

It is also understandable that the most frequently used headphones are on the left ("from left to right"). It also fits better visually and the cables are then a little further away from the controls.

Everything fits, IMHO really no need for a change.

I think the time and effort for coding, testing, docu change could be spend elswhere better for the advantage of customers.

Yes I'm aware of the reason the physical hp-outputs are ordered like they are, and that main monitor outs are 1/2 by convention and that's all cool with me.

But when I plug in two headphones with different impedance and want to, for example, level match them (and maybe switch one of the headphones to another pair) or use one hp for myself and the other hp for a fellow musician, I want fast access to the volume. The big display might be in for example "show the input" mode so a push of the Volume button will only show the volume in the lower part in the window.

This all makes sense, except for the fact that changing the left volume level displayed, changes the volume of the right headphone. The ones whom usually just use HP-3/4 and 1/2 for monitors, won't have a problem with this I guess. But for those  whom, like me, uses both heaphones outputs this should be a no-brainer (or that's what I thought anyway).

I guess I can live with it, but its a frustrating bump in the road every time I have this scenario at hand.

I don't know why you have a problem adjusting the volume for 2 headphones plugged in.

If you press the volume button several times, it toggles to control volume for Ph 3/4, Ph 1/2 or "Ph 1/2 + Ph 3/4" together. And it's clearly visible in each of the display modes, for which of the two phone outputs or both together the volume control is currently active.

Just tested this with ADI-2 Pro FS R BE and fw v. 115.

I can add that the visual selection, i.e the thin frame around the selected volume, is a much faster way to see the selected output (instead of reading numbers) even when in a display mode where the big display changes and shows the outputs. So this is a suggestion about workflow, ease of use etc....

Unfortunately the encoders seem to loose the volume function as soon as the dualvolume display exits. Maybe there's a way around that. Time to check the manual!

It seems you are talking about a hardware change? That is a bit harder to do, obviously.

It's all about reading the existing information. What is the LED good for when the Volume screen title shows you the current output in big letters?

That's an obvious human issue, And I fall for it from time to time as well. All the information is there, we just have to read and not ignore it.

I tested this and could not reproduce any issue, a clear step by step guide, best a video, is needed to fully understand his point and also the fw version in use. Mine v 115.

I usually map "toggle view" to Vol (1) key to be able to switch between the screens using the remote.
I changed it back to the default setting, then DUAL vol screen shows up again when pushing "Vol" key.
If I remember right larst plugged in two phones ? I did so, but it shouldnt matter what exactly is connected (or?).
So I should have more or less the same basic situation like larst.

Then I tried a few scenarios paying attention how the volume changes.
It is all like I posted already (#10).
Pushing the big encoder repeatedly toggles/selects either ph1/2, 3/4 or both outputs.
And the volume is being changed accordingly, no matter whether the volume screen is active or not.

I can see no issue or maybe I didn't fully understand the issue, but then I expect a better description, that is easier to understand to see the key point clearly.

BTW .. while restoring my default settings (user profile 1) I noticed, that the selection of outputs is not being restored. So when changing the volume not only the volume of main monitors is being changed (1/2) but also that of phones (3/4).
This is unwanted and not the expectation when restoring a setup. I want to keep a certain start volume for phones.
I opened this other thread for that not to hijack this one:
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 90#p188190

This is all about workflow and ease of use!

Especially when I'm in a studio environment with a lot of different knobs, units, people etc I do not want to read and process more information I just want to turn the correct knob with a minimum of chance of doing it wrong.. and when doing it wrong I have to undo what I did.. so there's many more steps involved.

So in my case the suggestion was to change the order of the volume markers in the display to match the HP-outputs i.e 3/4, 1/2.