Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

explodingPSYCH wrote:

Anyone else notice that MIDI selecting of hardware outputs (submixes) is disabled when the window isn't focused?

No. Works here without problems. Whether TM is in bg or not... (and "disable midi in background" checkbox is deselected).

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252 (edited by Markdude 2025-12-26 19:22:50)

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

Hello, I’ve got a few questions about Room EQ and crossfeed I was hoping someone could answer. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. For context, I currently have an original UCX (so I can’t experiment for myself in TotalMix) but am considering an upgrade to the UCX II.

When crossfeed is enabled on a pair of channels being used in stereo configuration, is it still possible to use separate Room EQ and 3-band EQ settings for each of those channels? Or does enabling crossfeed link the EQs? I have a set of per-channel EQ curves from a custom Sonarworks headphone calibration that I’d be recreating a simplified version of, and I’d also like to use crossfeed.

I saw it mentioned that the 9-band Room EQ and crossfeed are both behind the additional 3-band EQ in the signal path, but I’m unclear on the order of the first two. Is the 9-band EQ after the crossfeed?

And finally, is there information published somewhere about the technical differences between the 5 crossfeed settings?

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Markdude wrote:

When crossfeed is enabled on a pair of channels being used in stereo configuration, is it still possible to use separate Room EQ and 3-band EQ settings for each of those channels?

Yes.

Markdude wrote:

I have a set of per-channel EQ curves from a custom Sonarworks headphone calibration that I’d be recreating a simplified version of, and I’d also like to use crossfeed.

I saw it mentioned that the 9-band Room EQ and crossfeed are both behind the additional 3-band EQ in the signal path, but I’m unclear on the order of the first two. Is the 9-band EQ after the crossfeed?

No, Crossfeed is currently last, but was already requested to be placed before the 9-band EQ. We have plans to change that in a future (firmware) update.

Markdude wrote:

And finally, is there information published somewhere about the technical differences between the 5 crossfeed settings?

In the UCX II manual, a bit more in the ADI-2 series manuals.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

MC wrote:

It's 20 channels, manual will be updated with some more stuff soon. And the number will not rise, sorry.

+ "And RoomEQ saved in Snapshots is a newer TM FX feature, not yet mentioned in manuals."

Hello, I am considering to buy UCX II exactly due to the standalone Room EQ feature - with EQ it became very relevant due to its small size and 20 output channels.  I would like to clarify some confusion after I read through the latest UCX II manual and all these Room EQ threads:

1 - does UCX II really have 20 independent output channels where all 20 output channels get the Room EQ?  (I am asking, because the current manual still states "A maximum of 16 channels of Room EQ")

2 - Are the Room EQ presets saved in Snapshots, just like 3-band EQ? This is super-important as I would like to switch Room EQ snapshots using ARC USB buttons.  (again I am asking, because the current manual still states "its settings are only saved in the Workspace")

3 - Any chance to add at least one all-pass filter or "phase rotation" in the Room EQ? (I can accept the 9-12 bands of EQ even if it is quite limited compared to many DSPs with 30 PEQs. What I am struggling with is how to do precise phase alignement for fully active speakers and multiple subs without all-pass filter or a "phase rotation" feature)

thank you.

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Sergejs wrote:

Hello, I am considering to buy UCX II exactly due to the standalone Room EQ feature - with EQ it became very relevant due to its small size and 20 output channels.  I would like to clarify some confusion after I read through the latest UCX II manual and all these Room EQ threads:

1 - does UCX II really have 20 independent output channels where all 20 output channels get the Room EQ?

No. The UCX II is the only unit in the series limited to 16 channels RoomEQ.

Sergejs wrote:

Are the Room EQ presets saved in Snapshots

There is an option to do so (manuals will be fixed)..

Sergejs wrote:

Any chance to add at least one all-pass filter or "phase rotation" in the Room EQ?

AFAIK not possible, sorry.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

Thank you for clarification.  Not the best news, especially that all-pass filters are not to be expected in RME devices, but at least I understand what I am getting into.

Will try to make it work smile

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Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

The latest UCX II manual v 1.6 is now available as download from our website.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

258 (edited by seismologist 2026-02-23 15:59:09)

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

Hello!

Could somebody please confirm if Room EQ on UCX II is available in standalone and in Class Compliant modes?

Can it be configured without TotalMix, using only the display on the device itself?

Thank you.

Gregor

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Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

Yes, yes and yes.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

Do I have any chance, that instead of "Shelving" there will be the choice of "Low Shelf" or "High Shelf" for each of the three "free" filters? I desperately need 3 Low Shelf filters for one output channel and currently this is the "Game Over" for my intended pure Total Mix Crossover Setup for my 4 way active speakers...

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Any chance the delay parameter for room EQ can be tweaked to allow values greater than 42.5ms?

I'd need 46ms to time match my Dynaudio sub with my ex Machina loud speakers. Not that 42.5 doesnt get me in the ball park.

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

Found a workaround for the "too less shelving filter" topic, but still it would be nice.
Unfortunately I found another show stopper, which is that there is no option for Butterworth 1. Order. For Highpass below 500 Hz it's available with the "LC" functionality, but for higher frequencies or Lowpass behavior, I see no option.

I know that crossovers is not the intention of all these functions, but if you can "unlock" a whole new market with some simple adaptations, why not?

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

It would mean changing firmware in all RME interfaces that have effects... FX is not implemented in TM SW (except for partialy BabyFace), but in the hardware on units.

FF UCX II, Digiface USB, Babyface Pro FS

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Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=39569

https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=38865

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

Hi! There is a small bug in the .tmreq format: space is missing in the Band1Type. Band8 Type and Band9 Type both have spaces. TotalMixFX Version 1.991 (4). It is the same in the .tmws format too.

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Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

That is well known and will not change.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

267 (edited by pacopericolo 2026-05-04 10:46:12)

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II


Thanks for the link, I was not aware that this was discussed before.
However, having read through both discussions, I have to comment on two things:
-I understand that TotalMix is not intended to be a crossover solution and that you have to do it manually using Loopbacks, addition of variable Q Low/Highpass filters etc. and I'm totally fine with that.
BUT: it would still be nice if there would be a possibility for a 1st order Butterworth filter BEYOND the "LC"-Feature. Why? Because this one is limited to 1. maximum frequency of 500 Hz and 2. highpass behavior.
Using the standard HP/LP of either the EQ or the RoomEQ section will not result in a proper LR12 crossover, because whatever I do, I will always have -3dB instead of -6dB at the cutoff frequency. One could try to compensate for that with a Peak filter, but this will be far from ideal and phase response would be messed up.

A "simple" solution from my understanding would be to activate the GAIN control for the HP/LP of EQ and RoomEQ and make it work the same way as for the LC-Feature (changing the filter slope to 6,12,... dB/Octave). This would not hurt anyones workflow as the gain control had anyhow no functionallity for HP/LP filters until now and it would be a VERY cool feature, making the whole thing even more flexible than it is now (and it's great already, don't get me wrong!).


BR Paco

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

Ok, I have to correct myself, a LR12 can indeed be done since the filters are minimum phase. A combination of the BW2 HP/LP (Q=0.7) with a Peak Filter (Q=0.6) at the crossover frequency does the trick to a precision of 0.2 dB - if anyone else is interested.

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

Paco,
I tried to make a 4 way XO in Totalmix 2 years ago and never had a proper result.
Here is my solution for you :
https://accuratesound.ca/hang-loose-dsp-software-suite/
and to make your FIR :
https://linfir.demaudio.com
I used to run it on the same machine MBP M1pro using:
https://existential.audio/blackhole/
Now, I've moved it to an old Mac mini M1 with a very fast TB interface but it comes back in Totalmix (ADAT IN/OUT) where I added some room EQ and I use the ARC USB for my volume. I run it at a buffer of 16 samples and the latency is negligible.
Use linear phase FIR or else you end up with latency.
It's all free but after 14 days, HLC is 130$ worth every cents.
Good luck going down the rabbit hole ;-)
Use Claude AI to help you unless you are familiar with FIR.