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Changes in beta 5 (link in first post):
- Fixed unexpected 'Discard all changes' message
- Edited channel names are immediately updated in the mixer view
- Added support for Copy & Paste in dialogs (it's later now 
Changes in beta 5 (link in first post):
- Fixed unexpected 'Discard all changes' message
- Edited channel names are immediately updated in the mixer view
- Added support for Copy & Paste in dialogs (it's later now
1h 20 minutes from customer posting an issue to the release of the fix !
Well...
Awesome, starts to feel like a final version. I still think that it might be useful to make the left hand side of the Control Strip "grabbable", for resizing. Just to make the resizing option more obvious.
OK. It's RME Connector App that is in conflict with MIDI Remote App when used over the same connection.
On macOS, holding shift while using the mouse scroll wheel over a fader reverses the direction of movement here, though this seems to be the case for classic Totalmix as well.
With shift down it moves in the (for me) correct direction, opposite of whatever the system setting is for "Natural scrolling". In any case it should be the same direction whether doing fine adjustments or not?
But I really wish you would take the opportunity and instead support horizontal scrolling when shift is down, and use another modifier for fine adjustments. Much more useful when navigating the mixer, imo.
There also seems to be an issue when CMD zooming all the way out, the channels start scrolling sideways.
Otherwise it looks awesome, great job!
Hello I'm quite new to Totalmix. But on my Mac mini, scrolling the mouse move the fader in the same direction while shift is pressed or not. (Effectively the direction is strange if you're using "natural mode", as it natural from a paper point of view but not for a fader.) Holding shift is doing only fine adjustments on my system.
I think what you are experiencing is a macOS preference to switch between "un-natural scrolling" while shift is pressed?
I totally agree we should be able to have horizontal scrolling (severals mouses get a wheel for that) for the 3 rows when the pointer is on the "metal plate"... it is a real pain to go on the dark slider.
Also, I'd be happy as a touchosc user to get "layout mixer" recall OSC messages, even if I can manage something via ARC settings and sending a keyboard shortcut.
Beautiful anyway!
Behavior i find odd:
- new design has larger scale. I have to set it to 70% to have approximately the same scale as the old design (not an issue on itself, just odd)
issues:
- changing to 2row changes actual scale of the GUI, instead of collapsing the window (text and everything gets bigger)
things i'd prefer:
- the cog turning orange instead of a small orange dot - on the previous version the wrench was better visible from a glance. I think the cog turned yellow would make it easier to spot when looking for something. same for EQ and dynamics.
looks nice tho, kudos for including support for all the old interfaces as well!
Nice update! Big improvement for the most part from the previous version. Feels a lot more modern and slick than before.
I'd still love to see a bit more visual distinction between sections and features, there's so much more scope to use colour and shading in places so you don't have to rely so much on purely reading text. I'd love to be able to colour tracks, or shade them differently. Even a colour bar on the bottom or top of the track would be very helpful to direct our attention to specific areas.
The updates to the EQ and compressor are very welcome too - the compressor always felt too finicky to dial in quickly on projects and I actually ended up just buying some analog gear for gentle dynamics control on the way in. The updated GUI makes things nicer to use. IMO the taper of the Q control of the EQ is way too centred on very resonant shapes. I'd much prefer the majority of the resolution to be between 0.4 and 1 and less of the knobs range for anything above 1. Its rare that I'd use a Q tighter than maybe 2, and yet 2-9.9 occupies a large range of the controls.
In a more general sense, it still feels like the user is presented with a LOT of information at once, and at some point it would be good to try and make some sections more context dependent or customisable. For the short term it feels like a step in the right direction though.
In version 5 the button on ARC USB is still not fixed - the EXT INP button does not light up
Long time user but only comment every now and again on here. This is a huge improvement. I haven't created a rainbow but the colours and names I've setup now make much more sense to me. It overall looks a lot nicer too. No bugs that I've come across yet either.
In version 5 the button on ARC USB is still not fixed - the EXT INP button does not light up
Unclear what you mean...?
Would help if you answered the questions in #48
If I assign an External Input in Settings and use the ARC USB Defaults the EXT-INP button toggles and lights up.
When opening via ARC USB Total Mix I press the button - EXT INP and it does not light up - when I work in the old version it lights up
So, you assigned "Toggle Totalmix Windows" to Button 12?
it doesn't light up wether TM is active or in background - But that was always the same behavior (f.ex. in TM v1.99)
Nice job on the V2 beta thanks. Overall liking it. Just tried it today.
I use workspaces (WS) to switch between 1x, 2x sample rates & 1x and 2x 7.2.4 monitoring with UFX 3 as target.
When I first opened V2 beta I had a 1x stereo WS and it was fine. I tried to switch to my 2x stereo WS and TM V2 Beta crashed. I then tried to go back to V1.99 TM and the 2x WS crashed there also. to fix I had to load a 1x WS and then quit TM - which I guess updated the preferences file. When I reopened TM the 2x WS then loaded fine again in either V2 Beta TM or 1.99 TM.
Couple of other comments:
it took a couple of selections of the new "Toggle Old-New Design" function to get ALL of the window elements to scale freely. At first it seemed the side bar and Room EQ windows were tiny and way too small in the New design but a few switches back and forth between old and new got them to display as I think the designers intended. Also noticed only the frequency plot part of the room EQ window scaled bigger beyond a certain point. Past that point and only the frequency plot got bigger.
The old orange button design I thought was better where the whole button turns orange when engaged for things like Talkback, Loopback, Stereo etc. It's more eye catching IMO. This is not a big deal and I'm sure I would get used To it in time but this is my first impression.
For the longest time I have wished for TM to respond to a horizontal 2 finger left/ right swipe on an Apple Trackpad to scroll the row's faders left/ right while the mouse was hovering -anywhere- over one of the three rows of faders - not just when the mouse was hovering over the actual scroll bar of a row. Many windows in other programs allow this. I know beta release is not intended for new features but wanted to get this request on record.
Thanks again for all your continued hard work. You make it a joy to support the brand.
Kind regards
Congratulations on the facelift, it looks great!
I am testing the V2 beta 5 today.
I want to to say just a few things about Mute, Solo, Cue buttons:
- I think these buttons should really stick out a bit more than the other orange or blue buttons, like "stereo", "room EQ" ... Maybe the same argument applies to the trim buttons, but I never used these.
- The same for all the buttons right of the Main channel in Control Room (dim, mono, speaker B, ext. input, mute FX, talkback), they should stick out more when active.
- The visual difference between Muted and Muted by Group is not clear enough for me (it also wasn't in the old design).
- Mute groups color in the left group still has the old Mute color.
- I like how the Group master buttons for Mute, Solo, Fader look now, because (especially Solo) was always sticking out too much for me.
Generally, I don't get the (Non-)Capitalization in UI. Maybe it's a fashion to choose lowercased - that I don't like -, but it can't be argued that it is very inconsequent now, as if there were 2 concurring concepts.
Not really important for me, there is a visual clash of in the UI in context menu, which uses macOS standard colors and font.
Getting into Beta 5 some more and I think I've discovered an issue.
In stereo channels the new Room EQ design now shows 2 knobs for delay and output. with the output knobs it doesn't matter if I move them both Linked or as separate left/ right, if I set them both to say -6dB, close the window, reopen the window the left channel always displays 0dB again. Tried saving REQ preset and saving the snapshot but this behaviour persists.
Testing if the number displayed on left output knob after reopening window is true or simply a display issue suggests it is a display only issue and the output gain of Left Channel does not actually change.
Kind regards
tzzsmk wrote:I found another basic feature missing - when renaming channels - either in totalmix gui or channel layout window - COPY & PASTE doesn't work in those rename boxes
We are mainly looking for bugs and new issues here. Copy&Paste never worked, so it's no wonder it doesn't work in v2.0. This needs extra code that might come later.
ah understood,
and thanks for adding the feature anyway 
I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with the new TotalMix 2.0 GUI and I still think it's too dull and very hard to see individual elements, for example indication "dot" of EQ and Dynamics is almost invisible, definitely regression from glowing character of TotalMix v1:
I completely understand RME is taking ADI-2 Remote as modern design reference, but the density of elements in TotalMix makes it much more difficult
... it's too dull and very hard to see individual elements, for example indication "dot" of EQ and Dynamics is almost invisible ...
Agreed, same as with some of the buttons I mentioned, the boldness of the old design was replaced with exaggerated subtlety.
And one more, I think a playback channel that has its Width set to something other than +1.00 should have the gear icon lit in orange (like the output channels have it now when Loopback is enabled).
Firstly - congratulations on embarking on the redesign. Very exciting after all these years.
Secondly however, I must concur with others who find it dull and cluttered. I've tried all contrast settings and even using high I find it washed out and somehow very cluttered / busy feeling compared to the clarity of the old. Of course this could be a matter of just getting used to it, but I didn't feel like this when presented with the original TMFX - it seemed clear and fairly straightforward - admittedly many many years ago!
You have to get used to it.
The original Totalmix for me is this one :
Today we have huge more features and all has to be packed in a user friendly functional design.
I am happy with the new one.
Yes that was my first TM too - pre FX - using the original Hammerfall cards. I've happily followed the development of TMFX (and RME) throughout its history. I trust them completely but wanted to share initial feedback. I've never had to squint at my monitor before using TotalMix FX!
I have to agree with a lot of the other comments, especially about the dull color of the control room buttons and their flat look, it will look much better if the CR column will be a little more 3D and if this brown / orange color could be changed to the same bright orange that is shown on the Room EQ graph / knobs (L).
I think it will give the interface a more unified look in general and will be much more visible.
Also, I think there is a bug with the delay and volume knobs at the bottom of the room EQ.
The L volume correction knob goes back to 0 (visually) every time you close and open the room EQ, even if you lowered it by 20dB before closing its window (but if you move the knob with the scroller the volume jumps to zero on both channels)
In stereo mode, the L knob of both the volume and the delay ms can adjust both L and R, but the R knobs adjusts only the R channel (not sure if this one is intentional)
Other than that, amazing update.
Also, I think there is a bug with the delay and volume knobs at the bottom of the room EQ.
Post #63.
I do not use a mac, but I am very excited about the Windows version to come.
In regard to the volume knobs in the Room EQ: Could you please include them in the snapshots? Currently they are not (yet) included and this overhaul would be the perfect oppotunity to change that.
Thanks for listening.
Georg
A couple more small ones from using Beta 5.
Every time I open a new workspace the side bar reverts to its tiny display size. Also not possible to double click a fader dB number and enter value numerically. Once I toggle Old - New design function both issues go away.
Kind regards
Resizing is very nice. But outside the high-contrast mode readability is a bit harder on 119DPI Display in 100% mode.
Hallo,
es gibt möglicherweise einen kleinen Bug. Wenn man die Matrix skaliert, bleibt der Haken bei 100%
[Mod edit: gemeint ist, dass nach Anwahl eines anderen Scale Faktors wie 50% sich die Darstellung der Matrix wie erwartet ändert, der Haken im Menü aber immer noch 100% indiziert.]
Das ist auch beim Mixer window so. Das ist kein bug das ist einfach so. Das scale setting hat nichts mit dem zoom zu tun.
Hallo,
ich hatte das Verhalten schon mal beschrieben.
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=41775
Wenn ich in den DAW Modus wechsele sieht es so aus.
AN 1/2 als Main. Soweit OK.
AS 1/2 als Speaker B. Es bleibt ein Routing von AS 1 zurück?
Und noch PH 3/4 als Phones 1.
Sollen im DAW Modus die Control Room Routings dem Main folgen, wie oben Speaker B (möglichst ohne AS 1) oder alles straight bleiben, wie Phones 1?
Das muss ich mal nachvollziehen, ob es wirklich das Routing oder nur die grafische Darstellung betrifft. Danke erstmal.
(Hab' ein paar Mails entfernt, damit es für die mitlesenden Entwickler nicht zu unübersichtlich wird).
Hey MC, loving the new interface. Such a step up over the already great TotalMix.
A few comments if you may entertain them...
My Madiface USB is silent until I launch the app (which doesn't auto-launch unlike TMFX 1.99). I presume this is just an early beta version bug? I see software channels flashing up and down in Digicheck, but my speakers are silent until I launch TMFX.
Just my 2c, but maybe increasing the contrast between the currently selected output channel vs other output channels would be a good move, on some lower quality screens this will be tricky to see. Even on my MacBook Pro screen (which is great) it's not the clearest. Maybe an outline around the currently selected channel?
When collapsing the control room section as a whole, if any monitor output EQ or channel settings pane was open, upon re-expanding the control room section these are now closed. Is there a way of remembering those settings?
Would it be possible to have a setting whereby assigning an output to the control room section doesn't move it to the right hand side of the window? Or at least, leaves it next to the other un-assigned channels in the output row? This has been a constant bug-bear for me and throws the alignment of channels off. Also for people coming in to use my studio who aren't familiar with TotalMix it's often a source of confusion.
A way to assign colours to channels without having to enter the Channel Layout dialog would be VERY good.
Thanks and looking forward to seeing how this progresses!
Alex
Has anyone noticed any pops/clicks during DAW playback with this beta? I've had a couple and not sure if it's a driver issue or something else.
[*]Just my 2c, but maybe increasing the contrast between the currently selected output channel vs other output channels would be a good move, on some lower quality screens this will be tricky to see. Even on my MacBook Pro screen (which is great) it's not the clearest. Maybe an outline around the currently selected channel?[/*]
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[*]A way to assign colours to channels without having to enter the Channel Layout dialog would be VERY good.[/*]
+1
I think I encountered a rare bug:
after Mac Studio boots, and turn Madiface XT II on, I get error with TotalMix state mismatch, but TotalMix creates an empty state device "MADIfaceXT0", only when physically turning off and on Madiface again, TotalMix throws new error mismatch, but then loads proper "MADIfaceXTserialnumber" last state (from users/library/applicationsupport)
I think I encountered a rare bug:
after Mac Studio boots, and turn Madiface XT II on, I get error with TotalMix state mismatch, but TotalMix creates an empty state device "MADIfaceXT0", only when physically turning off and on Madiface again, TotalMix throws new error mismatch, but then loads proper "MADIfaceXTserialnumber" last state (from users/library/applicationsupport)
In the Totalmix Settings, try with this ON :
everything working fine so far.
1) The coloration of the channel backgrounds is a nice option, but the currently selected hardware output (in submix mode) can be even more difficult to see than before. The option to better highlight the active submix would be great, e.g. an orange frame, similar to the currently selected snapshot. I know it gets slightly brighter, but it is very difficult to spot, especially when the neighboring channels have different colors.
2) a vertical scrollbar for the options / snapshots / groups / etc. on the right side would be nice, or the option to change their order.
It is cumbersome to hit minus 3 times only to reach the recorder module when using slightly bigger scales with a small window size.
Thanks!!
Getting into Beta 5 some more and I think I've discovered an issue.
In stereo channels the new Room EQ design now shows 2 knobs for delay and output. with the output knobs it doesn't matter if I move them both Linked or as separate left/ right, if I set them both to say -6dB, close the window, reopen the window the left channel always displays 0dB again. Tried saving REQ preset and saving the snapshot but this behaviour persists.
Testing if the number displayed on left output knob after reopening window is true or simply a display issue suggests it is a display only issue and the output gain of Left Channel does not actually change
This bug was quite important to fix as the gain value of the left channel was disconnected internally. Please try beta 6 from link in first post. Sorry, but no other changes due to holidays.
Is anyone able to use the 2.0 software in Tahoe beta? It doesn't open for me.
Is anyone able to use the 2.0 software in Tahoe beta? It doesn't open for me.
TM 2.0 beta6 opens and runs without any problems.
Tested on: macOS 26 beta 7 (Build: 25A5346a)
Is anyone able to use the 2.0 software in Tahoe beta? It doesn't open for me.
Do you own an RME audio interface that is supported by TotalMix?
I do, but I also have a ADI-2/4 Pro SE, and that's what I was "testing" with. So of course, you are right, the ADI-2/4 Pro SE does not work with Totalmix. Sorry for that.
paulnajar wrote:Getting into Beta 5 some more and I think I've discovered an issue.
In stereo channels the new Room EQ design now shows 2 knobs for delay and output. with the output knobs it doesn't matter if I move them both Linked or as separate left/ right, if I set them both to say -6dB, close the window, reopen the window the left channel always displays 0dB again. Tried saving REQ preset and saving the snapshot but this behaviour persists.
Testing if the number displayed on left output knob after reopening window is true or simply a display issue suggests it is a display only issue and the output gain of Left Channel does not actually change
This bug was quite important to fix as the gain value of the left channel was disconnected internally. Please try beta 6 from link in first post. Sorry, but no other changes due to holidays.
Thanks for this Matthias. It now seems to be fixed:-)
Even though you said no other changes in Beta 6, somehow windows & layouts not remembering their position seems to be less common or gone completely now. Could this be true?
Thanks Paul, we'll have a look. The next beta should have some more changes, also from suggestions in this thread. Thanks to everyone for feedback, much appreciated!
When will release for Windows be ?
Summer holidays are here – so is a first beta of our next generation TotalMix FX 2.0!
......
Wait – what about Windows? The Windows version is in the works, expected to be available after the summer holidays, around September.
I am looking forward to.
Not sure if this is intended or a bug, but it still "feels beta":
When setting the Scale to bigger sizes in which the faders do not fit on the screen, it locks the automatic scaling of the channels, they do not change anymore when adjusting the window size.
This makes it tricky to scale the right side menu (options/snapshots/...) to anything above 70%.
Current workaround is toggling '2 row' on/off or temporally increasing the resolution.
beta 6, macOS 15.6, 13" MacBook Pro M1 1440x900
Seeing something similar to hselters on beta6 MBA M4 15.6.1: if set to 135% or 200 channels partially disappear and are not scrollable.
At the desk I use a three monitor setup: internal monitor + 2x 2560x1440 with one in portrait and one in landscape mode. I like to have TM on the portrait monitor where it fits perfectly @135%. But when switching to mobile use or moving the window to the internal window I lose access to some of the channels and the side menu.
Setting back to 100% sometimes makes them visible again.
Behaviour is persistent through restart of TM.
I just noticed that my Room EQ Presets disappeared, probably after installing the Beta.
The currently selected ones are still active, so I could save them again, but my alternative Headphone Presets are gone (not a drama).
Where did you save what you think is gone?
Directly in total mix in the respective pop up menu within the room correction window.
You mean Preset -> Save to? These can easily vanish (like Snapshots) when not saving the state via Workspace, or by exporting them explicitely via the Preset dialog. All RoomEQs are part of the current TM state, found in the typical file (lastInterfacel...xml, see manual).
room eq icon stays on (orange) when turning off the EQ.
room eq icon stays on (orange) when turning off the EQ.
Cross-check with the old TM FX version.
This is the same behavior as before: RoomEQ and EQ work independently from each other.
You can use either one or both.
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