Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

Indeed the base (100%) graphics in TM FX 2 are larger than in the old version.

It's reasonable because legacy design is pixel-based, but the new design is based on vectorgraph and anti-aliasing is required. If the new design window is the same size as the legacy at 100%, its text will be quite unclear.

102 (edited by tonpalt 2025-10-23 09:25:47)

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

If I'm not missing something, there is still an inconsistency in TM 2.0 that already occurs in previous versions:

When I'm in a saved snapshot and without modifying it, the indicator does not flash in the Control Strip, but if I activate rec controls (formerly Record View) and activate recording or playback on any channel, the snapshot indicator starts flashing.

This is what I mean, if the recording settings cannot be saved in snapshots, why is a change indicated? Is it possible to include the recording settings in snapshots? Perhaps an option in Preferences ...

Also:

kr0mka wrote:

Another thing I'd like to suggest for future versions is EQ/REQ last preset used labeling, would be nice to see the name of the preset that was last loaded and an asterisk indicator showing whether it's been altered since loading, eg "abc preset", "abc preset*"

+1

For me, the Factory presets are very useful, both EQ and Dynamics, but there is no way to see which one is selected, not even in the drop-down menu.



Thanks for read

UCX II FW106/36/104 v1.276 TM2.01 - PC Win11 25H2

103 (edited by Kubrak 2025-10-23 11:57:48)

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

+1 EQ/REQ/Dynamic last preset used labeling

It would be nice to have. I always wonder, which preset is used.... Yes, I see values, but what it is... Nobody knows. Yes, one could keep track, and write it down in his own preset documentation. But, who does it in real life? Maybe Ramses and few other selforganized beeings.

FF UCX II, Digiface USB, Babyface Pro FS

104 (edited by ramses 2025-10-23 16:10:06)

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

I had a look; it might be possible, but makes no sense to recall DURec settings from snapshots for safety of operation.

When TotalMix FX closes, then DURec record and playback states are being written to the last settings file.
Under Windows for example, this file for the first UFX III, stored in the profile of my user:

C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\TotalMixFX\last.FirefaceUFXIII1.xml
                                                                                                    ^--- number of UFXIII, 1st, 2nd
                                                                               ^^^^^^^^^----- UFX III

The last settings file is in XML format and has several sections.
See also the Excel in my blog: https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/ent … nd-backup/
Excel direct download: https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/attachme … v001-xlsx/

What I did now for testing:
In TM FX I armed record and playback for HW Input ADAT1/2 and stored it to Snapshot 1 and 8 additionally.

This record playback state you find in the <Inputs> section of the last settings file, where ADAT 1/2 are numerically the channels 14 and 15 in this file.

When I quit TM FX, the last settings file is being written entirely new and reflects the state of the last settings and all 8 TM FX Snapshots of this device.

I copied/pasted the complete folder before; therefore, I could use the tool WinMerge to compare the two TM FX folders before and after the change. By this I could identify quickly which file changed and where.

Here what changes in the last settings XML file of the UFX III (channel 14+15 = ADAT 1/2)

<val e="RecordEnable 14" v="1.00,1.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.00,"/>
<val e="PlayChannel 14"   v="1.00,1.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.00,"/>
<val e="RecordEnable 15" v="1.00,1.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.00,"/>
<val e="PlayChannel 15"   v="1.00,1.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.00,"/>
                                                                                                          ^----- Snapshot 8
                                                      ^--------------------------------------------- Snapshot 1
                                             ^---------------------------------------------------- Current State ("last settings")

As you can see, the record and playback state is being saved not only for the current state but also for each of the snapshots.
So it looks to me as if it would theoretically be possible to restore the DURec state on a per snapshot basis.

But I am pretty sure it was a design decision, for safety reasons, not to handle it this way.

Imagine the following situation: You have an important recording session and just armed the channels that you want to record with DURec. For an interface like the UFX III with up to 80 DURec channels, this alone is a lot of work to configure it properly.

Figure out what would happen, if recalling a snapshot for whatever reason (at will or accidentally) would change the selection of DURec channels. You might loose important channels for the recording and completely ruin the DURec record.

Therefore I think - for the safety of operation - RME took the proper design decision, not to restore DURec settings with snapshots.

Sure, theoretically you could make a switch in preferences, whether DURec armed state is being saved and recalled with snapshots and you could also dedicate one of the Snapshots to store your current setup including DURec state.
But I am sure that this all makes it only more complicated as YOU have to know about this and have to take care of this.
It is certainly easier and safer for all users that they can trust their DURec settings once you made them and that you can change between snapshots without those settings getting lost.

What you could do to achieve a similar funcationality is to save your DURec state to another workspace.
Either workspace file or by using quick workspace select.

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 15, Win10 IoT Ent

105 (edited by Thermaltake 2025-10-23 17:09:11)

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

I also noticed on my 165Hz monitor that when I open totalMix refresh rate drops to 65Hz when window is not active it returns to 165Hz again.

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

ramses wrote:

I had a look; it might be possible, but makes no sense to recall DURec settings from snapshots for safety of operation.

I hope you continue to share your knowledge and generosity here for many years to come, but it is your comment that does not make sense, from one user to another.

As those of us with some experience using DURec via TotalMix already know, it is a direct way to activate the recording and playback of the unit's physical channels, which can also be done in reverse, from the unit (CHAN/MIX front key) and immediately visible in TM due to immediate synchronization.

This configuration is persistent in the unit, meaning that whether you have activated/deactivated it in TM via rec controls (formerly Record View), it will remain configured in the hardware. We also know that TM snapshots have nothing to do with this.

This is why I used the word ‘inconsistency’, and I apologize to the RME team for any possible offense (I always use a translator), referring to the fact that TM snapshots should not indicate any change when recording/playback is enabled/disabled on any channel. I know what I'm talking about.

As for my ‘request’ to save the DURec configuration via TM snapshots, RME will decide whether or not to do so. Regardless of their decision, I will continue to enjoy the versatility and possibilities offered by the UCX II, excellent gear. That is why I end my post by saying ‘Thanks for read’.

UCX II FW106/36/104 v1.276 TM2.01 - PC Win11 25H2

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

A few UX observations from my experience of designing some DAW interfaces:

1. the dark version should have be the standard version - this happens when the designer uses a monitor that is way better at colors and contrast than average monitors (this is why in my design work I'm also using a standard monitor to preview my designs). Also the light version is more like a foggy low contrast version instead of being bright and clear.

2. the color of the EQ on/off button is confusing - the universal language of "ON" is either green, blue or white - while the red/orange color is the standard for the OFF state.

3. The menu button in the save/import eq curves is again, not using the standardized language for the menu (which is the hambuger menu - 3 lines that are visible from afar).

Making things different for the sake of being different is not a reliable strategy in user experience design.

Also the overall colors and contrast are a bit muted and lack proper separation between functions. Its not bad, just could be much better.

My 2c.

108 (edited by ramses 2025-10-24 11:41:39)

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

Hi tonpalt, thanks for your kind answer. Don’t get me wrong, I am not against it.

I found the question interesting and first looked into where the record-armed settings are actually stored. I was able to locate them and discovered that the record and play settings are indeed saved in a snapshot.

That might be the reason why TotalMix FX detects a change in the snapshot, which actually happens, and therefore blinks.

But you are right—currently this has no relevance for the snapshot, as these exact settings cannot be restored. So you ask yourself why this behavior exists.

Maybe RME will consider implementing it as you suggest—configurable via preferences, whether DURec settings will be stored and recalled by a snapshot.

My post was my personal résumé, a suspicion as to why the DURec settings that are already stored in snapshots are not recalled by snapshots.

Of course, if it’s implemented as configurable and if it were useful for you, why not? It would make the whole thing even more flexible.

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 15, Win10 IoT Ent

109 (edited by Kubrak 2025-10-24 12:06:40)

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

Lerian wrote:

A few UX observations from my experience of designing

.....

2. the color of the EQ on/off button is confusing - the universal language of "ON" is either green, blue or white - while the red/orange color is the standard for the OFF state.

If I think about it, you are right about the color. In case of TM probably green would be more appropriate and selfexplaining than orange. Also for loopback.

But maybe there is particular reason for using orange... Visibility, if fader colouring is on comes to my mind. (But orange has been used even before that.)

I can live with, what it is now. But, if it should be chaged, now is the right time.

FF UCX II, Digiface USB, Babyface Pro FS

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

MC wrote:

I expect Windows to overwrite your manual changes the next time you remove/reconnect the interface, because it has all the old info in its inf data base.

It is OK, the interface is always active, and I am no stranger to testing. :-)

All working great here, including remote connection from iPad.

W11 | Intel i9 | 128GB RAM | nVidia 4090 (4K @ 65") | FF UCX | UAD2 QUAD

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

Small request, could Room EQ remember its new window size please.

112 (edited by Kubrak 2025-10-24 15:03:18)

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@MC
It seems to me, there is something strange in local menu that opens after hitting Assign button in Controll Room.

1) Menu has different items in the list if new and old version of interface is used. Maybe that is on purpose, I do not know.... IMHO, it should be the same....
2) That Menu contains possibility to assign output for Phones 1, 2 and 4, but not Phones 3 in new interface. And there are two assignments to CUE/PFL to. (My guess is that first assigment CUE/PFL to in menu should have been Phones 3. And the selection in submenu the same like for other Phones.... It seems to me that resources for that menu are not probably as intended...)

FF UCX II, Digiface USB, Babyface Pro FS

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

The new mixer has some nice little things that are pleasing to the eye. Thank you, guys! The only thing is that I can't find the name of my own downloaded presets in the room eq.

114 (edited by ramses 2025-10-24 15:15:44)

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

Vlad Vilnev wrote:

The new mixer has some nice little things that are pleasing to the eye. Thank you, guys! The only thing is that I can't find the name of my own downloaded presets in the room eq.

For me it works

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/dsrotbd5caqrg0hvuthhs/2025-10-24-TM-FX-2.0-RoomEQ-settings.jpg?rlkey=5058do9pq7obr08f0i9420j5m&amp;st=gz32qs5i&amp;dl=1

Check the config file in your profile, whether your settings are still there.
You can copy/paste the RoomEQ related parts at the end of the file from a backup.
But I would not replace the whole file to not overwrite the latest FX related settings.

C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\TotalMixFX\rme.totalmix.presets.xml

At the end of the file:

<FunctionPresets>
  [...]
  <Room EQ L>
     [...settings for left channel...]
  </Room EQ L>
  <Room EQ R>
     [...settings for right channel...]
  </Room EQ R>
  <Room EQ>
     [...names of your presets...]
    <val e="Name 0" v="01-RL906 SW50% 9Band"/>
    <val e="Name 1" v="02-RL906 SW50% 7Band"/>
    <val e="Name 2" v="03-RL906 SW 40% Wet"/>
    <val e="Name 3" v="04-RL906 SW 50% Wet"/>
    <val e="Name 4" v="05-RL906 SW 100% Wet"/>
    <val e="Name 5" v="Room EQ Preset 6"/>
    <val e="Name 6" v="Room EQ Preset 7"/>
        [...]
  </Room EQ>
</FunctionPresets>

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 15, Win10 IoT Ent

115 (edited by OHtaru 2025-10-24 16:14:34)

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

I have a request. If possible, can we have color management for Totalmix? Or saturation adjustments? For my Display P3 wide-gamut monitor, the blue color of Options in the Control Strip on the right is oversaturated, but it looks much better in sRGB mode.

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

Finfet wrote:

Tried to download the file but got a false positive in the Defender

Detected: Trojan:Script/Sabsik.FL.A!ml

Looks like it's just me, but I think still worth mentioning. There are many such false positives these days. If anyone got the same thing, no need to worry, just allow it in the Windows security setting.

Jumping in to say the same thing pops up for me when downloading the latest beta.

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Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

Thx for the refresh.
I use 2.0 beta 9 on Windows 10

Some Dials not reseting on Ctrl + Left-Mouse-Click, worked in the old version.
For example the EQ freq, Q, low cut Settings, Fader settings gain, send FX, return FX, ...
Is there a new modifier Key setting for this?

Can you add a safety setting for the Phone/Monitor output to prevent reseting to 0dB ?
I accidentally ctrl clicked for testing on the Phone fader and i had music playing hmm
I hope i have learned my lesson smile

Place the Mix Sections freely?
So i can see the Hardware Inputs and Outputs on the first row and the software playback and control room on the second row?
This would allow for better use of the Space for the Babyface in a fullscreen 2 row setup view, as i use it.

And +1 for full color management smile

Thx
Rob

Babyface Pro FS HR211 Driver 1.276, Windows 10 22H2 19045.6456, nvidia RTX2070 latest Studio Driver

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

I did what you said to do but everything is still the same as before. That 'help' file is just a blank page. What am I doing wrong?

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Rwh457 wrote:

I did what you said to do but everything is still the same as before. That 'help' file is just a blank page. What am I doing wrong?

Nobody knows what you are talking about. More details, please.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Kubrak wrote:

@MC
It seems to me, there is something strange in local menu that opens after hitting Assign button in Controll Room.

1) Menu has different items in the list if new and old version of interface is used. Maybe that is on purpose, I do not know.... IMHO, it should be the same....
2) That Menu contains possibility to assign output for Phones 1, 2 and 4, but not Phones 3 in new interface. And there are two assignments to CUE/PFL to. (My guess is that first assigment CUE/PFL to in menu should have been Phones 3. And the selection in submenu the same like for other Phones.... It seems to me that resources for that menu are not probably as intended...)

Confirmed for Babyface Pro.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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RobWJ wrote:

Thx for the refresh. I use 2.0 beta 9 on Windows 10

Some Dials not reseting on Ctrl + Left-Mouse-Click, worked in the old version.
For example the EQ freq, Q, low cut Settings, Fader settings gain, send FX, return FX, ...
Is there a new modifier Key setting for this?

That seems incorrect. None of this worked in the old version, and there is no reason it could have worked. What is the 'default' value for PEQ Frequency and Q? There isn't one, obviously, so there can not be such a function (other than gain which still sets it to 0). A fader might have 0 and - infinity as reference, but that works as before by a double click on the channel fader.

The small send/return faders also did not have this feature as they are in reality knobs in the settings panel, where a double click allows manual type-in of the desired value (same for all these controls).

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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TsarNicholas wrote:
Finfet wrote:

Tried to download the file but got a false positive in the Defender

Detected: Trojan:Script/Sabsik.FL.A!ml

Looks like it's just me, but I think still worth mentioning. There are many such false positives these days. If anyone got the same thing, no need to worry, just allow it in the Windows security setting.

Jumping in to say the same thing pops up for me when downloading the latest beta.

Still a false positive.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Vlad Vilnev wrote:

The new mixer has some nice little things that are pleasing to the eye. Thank you, guys! The only thing is that I can't find the name of my own downloaded presets in the room eq.

What does 'downloaded' mean here? Imported? Then they will be in that list (see Ramses post). Downloaded but not shown in the Import dialog? Wrong path using it?

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

MC, I clicked the download link, go to my download file, click the new file, it opens and I extract all files, it opens to two files one for TM and one ‘help’ file. I click the help file and it opens to a blank file with nothing there. I close it then click the new TM file which opens TM on my desktop but it looks and behaves the same way as it did before I downloaded the new file. I cannot see that anything has changed at all.

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

Subject: @MC – TotalMix FX 2.0: Congratulations, but please modernize Workspace logic

Hi MC and team,

First of all, congratulations on the new TotalMix FX 2.0 beta.
The new Direct3D 12 engine and scalable UI are a major leap forward — it finally feels modern, smooth, and refined. The attention to detail is obvious and much appreciated.

That said, as a relatively new UCX II user, I still find the saving and recall system quite difficult to navigate. The coexistence of Workspaces, Snapshots, Layouts, Quick Select, and the numbered buttons often feels fragmented and inconsistent.

In practice, the only reliable workflow I've found is to manually save and load .tmws Workspace files from a user-defined folder. However, the internal Workspace buttons and Quick Select entries don't stay persistently linked to those files, which can make the system feel unpredictable and fragile.

Now that TotalMix has received a fresh codebase, this could be the ideal moment to modernize and unify the session management system — for example:

A single “Session” or “Project” save format

All saves pointing to a single user-defined directory

The ability to recall Workspaces from the ARC USB

The UCX II hardware is absolutely outstanding — rock-solid and sonically exceptional. It would be fantastic to see TotalMix match that same level of clarity, reliability, and usability on the software side.

Thanks so much for reading, and congrats again on the impressive 2.0 release.

Warm regards,
John Picard
Rome, Italy
TotalMix FX 2.0 beta9 Win11

126 (edited by ramses 2025-10-25 10:54:44)

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Hi picardjb.

Welcome to the RME user forum.

You say you are new to TotalMix FX. Please take your time; everything has a reason. Also, Rome was not built in a few days. wink
Please don't hesitate to ask questions on the user forum and to raise feature requests.
No matter what other users like me will tell you from their experience, RME will listen to you, also in terms of feature requests.

So all that I write here or answer to you is simply based on my "long-term" experience with RME products from my user perspective. I hope it is helpful to you to understand the concept.

Now, regarding the purpose of workspaces, snapshots, Quick Workspace Select, layout groups, etc.

You have
- Layouts to organize the channels that you want to see, e.g. hide unused or to focus on certain devices (preamps, ..)  or to colorize them
- Snapshots to save/recall routing and e.g. FX related settings
- Workspaces to save/restore all (routing and GUI-related elements)
- Workspace Quick Select lets you store up to 30 workspaces within TotalMix FX (in your user profile in parallel to TM FX config files)
   A very nice feature is that you can recall quick workspace select slots 1..9 with the key combination ALT-1 .. ALT-9
   By this, you can quickly change or restore your workspace. This was very useful when test driving TM FX 2.0 Beta.

Please look at my blog article; it explains TotalMix FX-related config files, how to back up/restore them, etc.:
https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/ent … kup-en-de/

TotalMix FX is a well-designed, mature software. Many excellent ideas went in over the past 20+ years.
It needs a little time to understand the purpose of every feature that you mentioned.
Once understood, you can easily build an excellent workflow.

I save all my workspaces in a folder on my disk as reference.
By this, they will be backed up along with my user files.
The workspaces that I often use are additionally stored in Quick Workspace Select Slots 1..9 (out of 30 max).
By this I can quickly access them by the key combination ALT-1 .. ALT-9.

I use layout groups to organize the many channels that I have with an HDSPe MADI FX card (194 in, 196 out).
I use 4 Layout Goups
- 1: Used (only the used channels of connected devices)
- 2: Available Channels (all channels of connected devices)
- 3: All Channels (194 in, 196 out, with colorization, just in case I want to check something)
- 4-6: Factory, here I stored factory settings when I first powered up the card (just as reference, no special purpose)

When listing your setup I noticed you mentioned TM FX 2.0. This is still a Beta.
For daily work and to learn TotalMix FX it would be better to use the release version 1.99.

As a starter in TM FX you do not need to use everything at once, take your time.
For a good start you only need to organize a few things.

1. Use the Assign Button in the control room to assign channels to the control room for monitoring purposes
    - assign your main active monitors to "Main Out"
    - assign your headphones to -> "Phones1 .. 4"
   By this you move these HW output to the control room, then you can use control room features like mono, dim, mute

2. Create a first basic routing for your active monitors
    Maybe nothing from HW inputs, so that you do not get a feedback loop from a microphone through your speakers
    Channels from the middle row, which is audio from the PC (DAW, Applications, ...): either only needed or all
    Best is to use submix mode, select the HW output and then move the faders of top and middle row to create the submix.
    Each HW output has its individual routing.
    Store this routing under Snapshot 1 and rename it to e.g.: monitors

3. The same you do for headphones.
    Select the headphone output and dial-in the desired routing, save it to snapshot 2: "phone1"

4. Now make a backup of your workspace, routing, window size and position
    File -> Save Workspace as -> ....

5. I would make use of workspace quick select, store this workspace to Quick Workspace Select Slot #1 (of 30 in total)
    File -> Workspace Quick Select ->
    Then you can at any time come back to your proven standard settings by using the key combination ALT-1

More is at first not required and you can take your time to get used to TotalMix FX.

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 15, Win10 IoT Ent

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

Hi Ramses,
Thanks for taking the time to respond in detail — I appreciate the breakdown of how you use the various components of TotalMix. Your experience with larger setups like the MADI FX is insightful and helps give perspective on how deeply developed this system really is.
To clarify, my post wasn’t meant to ask how these functions work — I’ve studied the manual, tried the workflows, and grasp the structure fairly well. My feedback was aimed more at the usability and consistency of the saving/recall system from the standpoint of an everyday or newer user.
Even though TotalMix offers deep and flexible functionality, to me the coexistence of Workspaces, Snapshots, Layouts, Quick Selects, and internal slot-based recalls feels somewhat fragmented — especially when thinking in terms of file persistence, backup strategy, and predictable session management. As someone coming from DAWs and digital mixers, I find myself missing a more unified model — one where everything lives in a single "Session" file, much like a DAW project.
This isn't meant as a criticism of the existing system, which clearly works acceptably for many long-time users. Rather, I’d like to offer a friendly idea that could potentially coexist with the current logic and simply give another option to users who prefer a more consolidated workflow.
________________________________________
Proposed Concept: Optional “Session” or “Project” Save Format
What it is:
An additional, simplified save/load format that bundles routing, FX, layout, and GUI preferences into one self-contained file — a bit like a DAW project or mixer scene.
Key benefits:
•    Combines:
o    Snapshots (routing, FX)
o    Layouts (visible channels, colors)
o    Workspace settings (GUI, meters, preferences)
o    ARC/Key command mappings
•    Saves to a single user-defined directory
•    Loads everything from one file, easily recalled or versioned (MySession_v3.tmsession)
•    Could optionally be linked to Quick Recall buttons or ARC USB slots
Why it might help:
•    Offers a clear mental model for users coming from DAWs, digital mixers, or mobile/live setups
•    Makes backup and recovery much simpler — one file instead of multiple parts
•    Reduces the learning curve for new users
•    Does not interfere with the existing system — just another layer for those who want it.

Respectfully Shared
I fully respect that TotalMix FX has matured over decades — and it shows. I simply wanted to contribute a usability idea that might improve accessibility and confidence for new or mobile-first users, without taking anything away from those who already have a strong workflow with the current architecture.
Thanks again for your time and the forum’s thoughtful discussions.
Warm regards,
John Picard
Rome, Italy

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

picardjb wrote:

Hi Ramses,
Thanks for taking the time to respond in detail — I appreciate the breakdown of how you use the various components of TotalMix. Your experience with larger setups like the MADI FX is insightful and helps give perspective on how deeply developed this system really is.
To clarify, my post wasn’t meant to ask how these functions work — I’ve studied the manual, tried the workflows, and grasp the structure fairly well. My feedback was aimed more at the usability and consistency of the saving/recall system from the standpoint of an everyday or newer user.
Even though TotalMix offers deep and flexible functionality, to me the coexistence of Workspaces, Snapshots, Layouts, Quick Selects, and internal slot-based recalls feels somewhat fragmented — especially when thinking in terms of file persistence, backup strategy, and predictable session management. As someone coming from DAWs and digital mixers, I find myself missing a more unified model — one where everything lives in a single "Session" file, much like a DAW project.
This isn't meant as a criticism of the existing system, which clearly works acceptably for many long-time users. Rather, I’d like to offer a friendly idea that could potentially coexist with the current logic and simply give another option to users who prefer a more consolidated workflow.
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Proposed Concept: Optional “Session” or “Project” Save Format
What it is:
An additional, simplified save/load format that bundles routing, FX, layout, and GUI preferences into one self-contained file — a bit like a DAW project or mixer scene.
Key benefits:
•    Combines:
o    Snapshots (routing, FX)
o    Layouts (visible channels, colors)
o    Workspace settings (GUI, meters, preferences)
o    ARC/Key command mappings
•    Saves to a single user-defined directory
•    Loads everything from one file, easily recalled or versioned (MySession_v3.tmsession)
•    Could optionally be linked to Quick Recall buttons or ARC USB slots
Why it might help:
•    Offers a clear mental model for users coming from DAWs, digital mixers, or mobile/live setups
•    Makes backup and recovery much simpler — one file instead of multiple parts
•    Reduces the learning curve for new users
•    Does not interfere with the existing system — just another layer for those who want it.

Respectfully Shared
I fully respect that TotalMix FX has matured over decades — and it shows. I simply wanted to contribute a usability idea that might improve accessibility and confidence for new or mobile-first users, without taking anything away from those who already have a strong workflow with the current architecture.
Thanks again for your time and the forum’s thoughtful discussions.
Warm regards,
John Picard
Rome, Italy


Maybe I don't understand correctly, but what you describe as "session" is exactly what a workspace is, no?
I don't work with snapshots or layouts, just with different workspaces, I can call them up via quick select or directly from the workspace preset file...
I am working with quick access popup and made different commands. When I launch cubase it automatically loads my cubase workspace, when I start wavelab it loads the wavelab workspace etc.

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

Hi folkfreak,
Thanks for jumping in — I do appreciate your description of how Workspaces can be used flexibly, and it’s great to hear they work reliably for you.
In my case though, I’m not questioning the capabilities of TotalMix, but more the consistency and reliability of recalling saved states — specifically Snapshots and Layouts.
After three months of working daily with a UCX II, what I keep running into is this:
•    Recalling a Snapshot doesn’t always restore the routing or mixer view as expected.
•    Recalling a Layout sometimes brings back input channels I had hidden, or even channel names from a different Workspace.
•    No matter how many times I save these elements — into buttons, slots, or menus — the result often deviates from what I saved.
•    The only recall action that gives me predictable, repeatable results is using File → Load Workspace from Disk.
It may very well be that I still haven’t internalized the deeper logic of TotalMix, but I’m three months in and still find myself tripped up regularly. That’s what sparked my original post — not a request for more features, but a hope that recall behavior could be unified and made more transparent, especially for users who just want to get back to a known state quickly and reliably.
Thanks again for the thoughtful reply.
Best regards,
John

130 (edited by ramses 2025-10-25 13:43:01)

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> Recalling a Snapshot doesn’t always restore the routing or mixer view as expected.

Routing for sure; Mixer view depends on what you mean by that.

> Recalling a Layout sometimes brings back input channels I had hidden, or even channel names from a different Workspace.

Layout Groups are about hiding and naming channels. They are part of a workspace (saved to file or quick workspace select).

> No matter how many times I save these elements — into buttons, slots, or menus —
> the result often deviates from what I saved.

You need to describe what you do and what is not working as expected.
Otherwise it is not possible to understand what you mean.

> The only recall action that gives me predictable, repeatable results is using File → Load Workspace from Disk.

Sure, because a workspace contains as good as all settings except a few from preferences.
Another option is quick workspace select. It also saves and recalls workspaces.
See my Excel, which details the XML file format of the different files.
https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/ent … kup-en-de/

Whats perhaps missing is a matrix which clearly shows what GUI element is saved where.
I started this Excel to get some knowledge about what file contains what.
But I was never in a mood to compile such a matrix with a quick overview what exactly saves what.
I do this intuitive every couple of year if something significant changes in my setup.

The short story for me .. store routings to snapshots and save all in workspaces.
If I need to hide or colorize channels then I use Layout Groups, which are saved in workspaces.
Fader Groups are saved in snapshots and by this in workspaces as well.
Its not that difficult.

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 15, Win10 IoT Ent

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Hi Ramses,
Thanks again for taking the time to explain things further.
It’s entirely possible that I’m still missing some key steps or logic in how the Snapshot/Layout system behaves. I’ll admit that I’m relatively new to the RME ecosystem, and perhaps I’ve simply not yet absorbed the deeper flow of how it all fits together.
At the moment I’m under deadline with a project, so I won’t have time to properly test or verify everything — but going forward, I’ll make a point of documenting any specific recall inconsistencies I encounter. If I do find anything that can be clearly reproduced or better explained, I’ll definitely share it here in case it’s useful to others.
Appreciate your help and detailed insights.
Best regards,
John

132 (edited by Thermaltake 2025-10-25 15:46:58)

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After restarting PC, totalMix is smaller like old totalMix 1.99, and when I select scale to be on 100% it turns bigger.

Also when resizing window on the edge, bottom or top of window, the whole graphics inside of window is changing size not sure if that is normal.

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It will be the old TotalMix. You have to unload TotalMix every time you restart and then run the beta version. When it’s released then it will be a full install and you won’t need to do this.

Babyface Pro Fs, Behringer ADA8200, win 11 PCs, Cubase/Wavelab, Adam A7X monitors.

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

What I did is, that I have removed (better said, created subfolder and have moved TM there)old TM, so that it is not automatically started. And start new TM manually.

FF UCX II, Digiface USB, Babyface Pro FS

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I just renamed the beta to the old name and put it at the normal place...

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Rwh457 wrote:

MC, I clicked the download link, go to my download file, click the new file, it opens and I extract all files, it opens to two files one for TM and one ‘help’ file. I click the help file and it opens to a blank file with nothing there. I close it then click the new TM file which opens TM on my desktop but it looks and behaves the same way as it did before I downloaded the new file. I cannot see that anything has changed at all.

So you did not do exactly as instructed:

Exit TotalMix FX in the notification area,...

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Exactly, just closing TM by cross, just minimizes it, not fully closes. And if a new instance of TM is started, it checks if TM already runs, and if runs, it terminates itself.

So, if old version is closed by cross (just minimized) and new version is executed, old version will continue running and new version closes itself automatically. Only one instance of TM may run at time.

FF UCX II, Digiface USB, Babyface Pro FS

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

You say to 'Exit the TM -notification area-if making a new file on my PC and putting the download file in it is not leaving the notification area I need clarification on what constitutes the 'notification area'.

139 (edited by ramses 2025-10-29 19:23:04)

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Rwh457 wrote:

You say to 'Exit the TM -notification area-if making a new file on my PC and putting the download file in it is not leaving the notification area I need clarification on what constitutes the 'notification area'.

As already mentioned, clicking on the window does not close the program; it only closes the window.

That’s why you still see the icon on the lower right side of the task list (the Windows notification area).
It's the same behavior for all other programs/drivers/services that you see there.

Now, regarding TotalMix FX 2.0: when you start the new binary, it will only open the already running TotalMix FX 1.99 binary—if you haven’t, as already mentioned, first closed the program (v 1.99).

To quit the old TM FX 1.99 application, right-click the TM FX icon in the Windows notification area, and select to quit the application in the pulldown menu. If you do not see the icon, it might be hidden; then click on the triangle to make all hidden notification icons visible.

Only if you quit the running version 1.99 you can start v2.0 successfully.

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 15, Win10 IoT Ent

140 (edited by Rwh457 2025-10-27 00:18:20)

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

I did what you said and it works-Thank You So Much!! I really like the new color selections!

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

One thing I noticed using the new beta.
I am on Windows 10 and have the taskbar invisible on the right side of the monitor, it only gets visible when I hover with the mouse over it.
When using totalmix 2 the taskbar doesn't hide anymore until I click on the totalmix window once. Then the taskbar autohides again.

142 (edited by dannyherbertgj 2025-10-29 23:58:22)

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Hello!

There are a handful of things that I though could be cool/usefull to include for the ARC USB:

  • I have the main Talkback button set to toggle. I give the footswitch to a client set to Talkback push. It would be nice if you could have the main talkback not turn off when the client turns off their talkback by letting go of the footswitch. So as the Main Talkback toggle can't be turned off.

  • Some way to recall Workspaces. Perhaps workspace quickselect 1,2, 3, 4, etc?

  • Doing multiple things with one button. For example enable Snapshot 1 and layout 2.

  • Select outputs other than the main output for the encoder to control.

Also, I've occasionally had a wee bug where the "Toggle TotalMix Windows" action sometimes doesn't focus total mix. I can see it light up in the taskbar, but it stays hidden. If I click it with the mouse, then it will focus and the action will work consistently again for a while. I can't make it fail like this reliably and it seems to only happen after not using TotalMix for (very) roughly 15 mins. I've only had it happen when I have a DAW open (Reaper and Ableton). It feels like it might be more of a Windows issue than an RME one though as the Action is clearly making the taskbar icon light up, so it seems like the ARC has done it's job and Windows is just thinking that it's not important or something.

Edit: I've since realised that it will never focus Total Mix if "Always On Top" is disabled and the bug I was experiencing was with Always On Top enabled. Is this intended? It seems like it would be better if the app opened up and was foused.

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

Hi ! Is there any chance that Room EQ will be implementde in this update ? I have Fireface 802 (non -FS), and i'm very fristrated that i can't import my SoundID Reference correction profile in my Total Mix...

Thanks for the answers !

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K.Robin wrote:

Hi ! Is there any chance that Room EQ will be implementde in this update ? I have Fireface 802 (non -FS), and i'm very fristrated that i can't import my SoundID Reference correction profile in my Total Mix...

Thanks for the answers !

Welcome to the RME user forum.

Sorry, this is not possible. It has already been communicated for the 802 in this thread:
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=39428

"Fireface 802 FS. For technical reasons only the FS version can provide RoomEQ."

This is hardware related; it can't be fixed by software (neither by TotalMix FX v1.x nor by v2.x).

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 15, Win10 IoT Ent

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Ohh sad news.... Thanks !

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Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

Beta 10 is now up and running! See link in first post. And there are lots of changes:

- Fix: Error dialog could come up multiple times causing another error

- Fix: Last versions did not store function presets (EQ, Room EQ, etc.) correctly

- Fix: On shutdown or user log-off settings were not saved correctly

- Fix All-user option: on save files were generated  that were only readable, but not editable for other users. TM FX now includes a function that gives all users write access on exit of TM FX.

- Various fixes for DAW mode: display in matrix for Speaker B, wrong routings when changing from DAW to Full, background level meter not centered and wrong when channel made small.

- New: The name of the last loaded Room EQ Preset is now shown in the Room EQ window. Note that this only works for saved Presets (Recall list, 1 to 16), not for file names of imported ones The name is removed as soon as any parameter changes.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

147 (edited by Thermaltake 2025-10-31 20:03:50)

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

Installed beta 10.

Still same with low quality image icon in tray and taskbar. And still same with problem with refresh rate when totalmix window is active on 165Hz monitor at 2560x1440 resolution.

Re: TotalMix FX 2.0 – first beta available for Windows (now released)

Still valid for v10. Assign menu in Controll Room seems to be wrong.

Kubrak wrote:

@MC
It seems to me, there is something strange in local menu that opens after hitting Assign button in Controll Room.

1) Menu has different items in the list if new and old version of interface is used. Maybe that is on purpose, I do not know.... IMHO, it should be the same....
2) That Menu contains possibility to assign output for Phones 1, 2 and 4, but not Phones 3 in new interface. And there are two assignments to CUE/PFL to. (My guess is that first assigment CUE/PFL to in menu should have been Phones 3. And the selection in submenu the same like for other Phones.... It seems to me that resources for that menu are not probably as intended...)

FF UCX II, Digiface USB, Babyface Pro FS

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That's why it wasn't mentioned in the list - don't worry, will be fixed in beta 11.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Thermaltake wrote:

Installed beta 10.
And still same with problem with refresh rate when totalmix window is active on 165Hz monitor at 2560x1440 resolution.

Not quite sure why that is a problem? Running TM FX at 165 Hz will bring zero advantage. Instead it would cause higher CPU load for all the level meters etc. With DigiCheck's sophisticated graphics/views we walked the extra mile and started to support higher referesh rates, but that is a lot work under the hood and IMHO not justified for TM FX.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME