Topic: Optical MADI cables that can carry 12 channels at 192Khz ?

Hi folks,

I have checked if this question has already been posted but haven't find, so I apologize if it indeed has!

I'm planning to expand my studio gear with a 12-mic preamp over a UFX III interface and I'm wondering what's the best connection to get all the 12-mic channels from the 12-mic into the UFX III at 192Khz rate for USB 3.0 recording.

Are there specific cables you can recommend?

On a side note: has anyone directly compared a 12-mic with a Micstasy in terms of preamp quality? Any noticeable difference?


Best,
Tony

Re: Optical MADI cables that can carry 12 channels at 192Khz ?

Any compatible cable should be able to handle this without any problems.

There are no difference in sound quality by design...

Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME

3 (edited by ramses 2026-02-16 13:29:30)

Re: Optical MADI cables that can carry 12 channels at 192Khz ?

- MADI optical to get galvanic isolation
- At 192 kHz, the MADI bus offers 16 channels (due to channel multiplexing), which is sufficient for the 12 channels of the 12mic

BUT.. I think 192 kHz is completely unnecessary for recording.
This is maybe something for Capitol Studios if they want to archive their audio treasures for the next xxx years.

Single speed already gives you a quality that is beyond our hearing capability.
I know a professional studio owner who records everything at 48 kHz.
If you think that you need a little extra quality for whatever reason, then use double speed.

Another benefit is more room for additional additions, as you have 32 channels over MADI to connect, e.g., 12 mic and M-1620 Pro.

IMHO 192 kHz with only 16 channels is a major waste of channels and puts too much (unnecessary) stress to the computer.
You make it only much harder for your PC to process everything reliably in time, especially when using smaller buffers.
Everything has to process an audio bandwidth that is 4 times higher (DAW, every Plugin that you use, ...).
And of course, you need more RAM and storage.

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 15, Win10 IoT Ent

4 (edited by ramses 2026-02-16 13:15:13)

Re: Optical MADI cables that can carry 12 channels at 192Khz ?

As I wrote already here
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 75#p242075

I would use the latest preamp design.

UFX III and 12Mic have very similar preamps with 75 dB gain.

Micstasy is surely great but an older design.
The configuration is not so easy compared to 12Mic via web browser.

Also, the remote configuration is better with the 12Mic.
You have two options
- Auxdevice via "MIDI over MADI", integrated into TotalMix; most important settings are saved in TM FX Snapshots/Workspaces

or alternatively

- RME connector application, also using "MIDI over MADI" or alternatively via LAN, which additionally supports peak metering
  due to the higher bandwidth needed for this. Over MIDI over MADI you do not have so much bandwidth, as only unused bits
  in the MADI header can be used to transport some information for remote and RMS metering.

Important: you can only use one of the two remote options, not both at the same time.

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 15, Win10 IoT Ent

Re: Optical MADI cables that can carry 12 channels at 192Khz ?

Thank you all guys, really enlightening feedback indeed! I shall stick to single speed with a 12-mic unit. I think I'm gonna go MIDI over MADI integrated in TotalMix!

Thanks again you all!

Re: Optical MADI cables that can carry 12 channels at 192Khz ?

You're welcome, enjoy the new setup.
If you have further questions, then do not hesitate to ask.

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 15, Win10 IoT Ent