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RME Totalmix/win 11- at fresh start up always at the loudest possible level
one of my speakers is broken,,,never had this problem with any other Hardware
Could someone be so kind and help me make a snapshot (if possible) to prevent this...Please
best Regards
Harry
Hi Harry, welcome to the RME user forum.
What RME interface and what active monitors do you have?
What TotalMix FX version is in use?
Please post a screenshot of TotalMix FX preferences (F2).
I am using these settings; for you it might look a little different, as I am using the latest version, 2.10 alpha 5.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/frtogdox … h&dl=1
On the active monitor, you can reduce the volume if it has a volume pot.
Some monitors have DIP switches to adjust the input sensitivity to make the signal more silent.
Your RME recording interface might allow you to choose between different reference levels (click the wrench symbol).
Select the reference level with the lowest output volume.
Additionally, lower the output fader and store this routing and setting to a Snapshot.
Save this setup in a workspace file.
You can also use Workspace Quick Select Slots 1-9 (of 30) to store the workspace there additionally.
The benefit is that you can rapidly restore the workspace using a key combination, ALT-1 .. ALT-9 (Apple: use the "option" key).
Another good possibility is to use switchable attenuators, which are neutral to the sound.
Then you can lower the volume, e.g. by -10, -20, -30 dB.
A good, not too expensive product is, for example, this one: https://www.thomann.de/de/jts_ma_123.htm
If you use such an attenuator, it's very likely that the 0 dB setting on the output fader won't hurt anymore,
possible still in combination with lowering the monitor's input sensitivity and choosing a reference level with lower output volume.
See the thread about volume mismatches https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=25399
Its also possible to use a monitor controller.
Then you should validate your TM FX preferences; see my screenshot above.
TM FX online help and possibly also the manual will tell you what the purpose of these options is.
EDIT:
- a snapshot saves the routing and port configuration (ref levels, etc)
- a workspace saves all shapshots and the size and location of one or mor instances of TM FX window on the desktop.
These two options I would set in TM FX - Preferences (F2)
Do not load "-----" By this all volume settings are restored as you saved them.
[x] Always init DSP devices with TotalMix FX settings prevents a question, whether you want to load the device settings from the computer or the recording interfaces. This only happens when you changed the settings in standalone mode on the device. Otherwise the last settings are always restores by the last settings file.
The disable double-click fader ensures, that e.g. the output fader with a reduced volume jumps to 0 dB, which can be very loud if you did not fix the volume mismatch with all the proposed measures here in my posting.
With Reduce volume peaks on Snapshot load I did not make any experience so far. I would take this as an option to experiment,
whether this brings you extra safety. If you solved the volume mismatch as proposed, then this option should not be needed.
Please note: its always beneficial to save safe volume settings to all 8 Snapshots.
Should you select another Snapshot with higher volume you might run again into volume issues.
With Workspace Quick Select it is similar but not the same. If you didn't save a Workspace to WQS Slot 1-9, then nothing gets changed/restored (using e.g. ALT-1..9) if there was no such workspace file previously written.
HI DAW Mastermind
Neuman KH 120A,Baby Face FS,
-What TotalMix FX version is in use?---2.01
First of all...
Thanks for your quick and supreme support !
I did save a snapshot on mix 1,did help but when it boots there is a awful rumble-but better then the full blast.
Have to try the options you listed.Setting the Speaker volume sounds good to me!
could not load the screen shot of the prefs.to complicated for me on this platform,i have about the same settings.
I thank you again and again for your help !
Here in my blog an article how to post screenshots on RME forum:
https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/Ent … rum-EN-DE/
In short: put it on a cloud (dropbox offers a few advantages), post the URL to the picture here, surrounded by img-tags.
Neumann KH 120A has two possibilities to make it more silent:
1) input sensitivity can be reduced from 0 to -15 dB, use -15 dB
2) output volume can be switched between 94; 100; 108; 114 dB SPL, use 94 dB SPL
Babyface Pro FS has a switch at the bottom to switch the reference level of the analog output between +19 and +4 dBu
(balanced connection). Use the lower output level +4 dBu.
> I did save a snapshot on mix 1,did help but when it boots there is a awful rumble-but better then the full blast.
Can you please make a video?
Wondering why there is so much noise during booting.
Besides those settings and additionally using those attenuators you could also use a monitor controller like e.g. this one:
https://www.thomann.de/de/mackie_big_knob_passive.htm
An entirely different solution is - just for the case you wanted to purchase an ADI-2 Pro FS R BE reference converter anyway in the future - to connect this through the ADAT port. The reference converter remembers the volume levels; by this, it can't be too loud. On top you get additional useful and uniq features of the reference converter.
See the product page, the intro of the manual, which gives a nice overview of features.
Or take a look at my blog article, which also gives a very nice overview:
https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/Ent … ses-EN-DE/
A brief overview of the ADI-2 Series of Reference converters you find here in the forum:
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 06#p165706
This is how the reference converter would be connected to your system:
Computer---USB2----------------------------------------------+ Remote Control
| | via "ADI-2 Remote" Software
| USB2 |
| |
Babyface Pro FS [cm]---ADAT OUT--------->ADAT IN---ADI-2 Pro FS R BE [cs]---AN 1/2 OUT---Neumann Active Monitor
\---ADAT IN<-----..----ADAT OUT---/ \---AN 3/4 OUT---Headphones
I am also using such a setup for monitoring in combination with HDSPe MADI FX card:
https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/ent … tup-en-de/
In my case even two ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, one for the recording corner, one for the HiFi corner.
If you have interest, then you would have to wait a bit, according to rumours on this forum new devices are coming out.
Currently all reference converters seem to be sold out (ADI-2 DAC FS, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, ADI-2/4 Pro SE).
The benefits of using the reference converter for me every day:
- a fix volume for my setup, fully independend of TM FX fader settings
- conversion quality
- auto ref level
- dynamic loudness
- ear protection by volume ramp-up when plugging headphones or switching between phones and active monitors
- possibility to switch D/A filters
- Bit test to validata that the complete audio path from player/DAW to the D/A converter is lossless.
- troubleshooting of digital connections through the state overview screen
- Possibility to compensate treble rolloff of some D/A filters (like "Slow") at single speed, where rolloff is in the audible range
- ADI-2 Remote control software which makes operation of the unit very comfortably
esp. if you want to manage different PEQ profiles for ajusting frequencies for
- treble rolloff of D/A filters, if needed and
- to linearize your headphones or to compensate a lack of bass presentation
Wow...thank you and vielen dank!
It must take some weeks for me to unstand...thanks for the Dropbox tipp!
Wow...thank you and vielen dank!
It must take some weeks for me to unstand...thanks for the Dropbox tipp!
It appears that you did not create a URL that can be shared. Here's your screenshot:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zmo3cgoe … t&dl=1
BTW ... I asked for a screenshot of TM FX settings (F2), so that I can see what you configured.
But ok, its fine to send the TM FX screen with the routing.
But there it would be of more interest to show the submix of the active monitors (HW Output AN 1/2)
where you hear the loud noise (not of the phones output). You clicked to the phones output.
Therefore we see the submix for the headphone output.
It would also be useful to click on the "gear icon" of HW Output AN 1/2 to see more of the channel settings.
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/66agiwl7mtuo … -IwZE1iXla
- input sensitivity can be reduced from 0 to -15 dB, use -15 dB
2) output volume can be switched between 94; 100; 108; 114 dB SPL, use 94 dB SPL
Babyface Pro FS has a switch at the bottom to switch the reference level of the analog output between +19 and +4 dBu
(balanced connection). Use the lower output level +4 dBu.
I did that,didn't change much but it feels safer!
-TM FX settings (F2) are the same settings you have.
- show the submix of the active monitors__-i have no submix,i guess,i just record my music-simple setup
I hope i post the pics this time right,__have health issues ,trying my best...
I thank you for the info when i am stronger i will try to understand what you sent me.
Thank you again,did not expect so much help !!!!
sorry seems not to work....
> I did that,didn't change much but it feels safer!
What were the values before and after? Because the maximum possible delta of volume is up to 35 dB !!!
a) -15 dB on input sensitivity is -15 dB lower volume
b) Output volume: difference between 114 and 94 is 20 dB
c) Plus 15 dB on the Babyface Pro FS output (+19 - +4)
Iin total up to 35 dB volume difference.
In terms of submix. Didn't you read the manual?
In TotalMix FX every HW output has an individual submix, hence the name "submix mode".
You select a HW Output and see the routing according to the fader positions of top and middle row.
- Top row: HW inputs
- Middle row: audio from the computer / DAW
So if you want to see what audio is being routed to the HW Output AN 1/2, where the noise occurrs,
then you should select this particular HW output and additionally click the gear icon, to see more channel settings.
In the TotalMix FX terminology every HW output has/is a submix.
-In terms of submix. Didn't you read the manual?
no i could not understand it,so i watched some videos and made a simple setup
-So if you want to see what audio is being routed to the HW Output AN 1/2, where the noise occurrs,
then you should select this particular HW output and additionally click the gear icon, to see more channel settings
i thought i did that ?. I can not understand in the moment....
i can use loopback,rec.my voice + guitar in my DAW, have to many health issues...
thanks for your tremendous help !
> i thought i did that ?. I can not understand in the moment....
It seems you do not understand
- that every HW output has a routing/submix of its own
- TM FX submix (output-) oriented routing
Look at your screenshot, its easy to see/read once the concept of submix mode is understood.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/sr0cq7a0 … x&dl=1
I muted every thing i do not always need like loopback and the rumble is a little quieter.
I will leave it for now.Will leave PC on the most time,the big blast is no more so i am happy about that !
It will take time to digest what you have told me,and i can translate it to German for better understanding.
I really appreciate your help but I have to close the thread,recognizing I'm just too exhausted for further actions.
Thanks again DAW Mastermind!!!
No problem. Take as much time as you need; nobody's rushing you.
And above all, get well soon. Just get in touch if you have any questions about any of the topics.
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