TotalMix FX 2.1 now available as beta

Hello, can I try totalmix fx 2.0 on mac mojave osx? 10.14.6? will it work? (mac mini intel chip 2018 model), minimum requirement is 10.15 osx but the beta version works above high sierra...?

Updated first post with v 2.1 beta 2. This is release candidate state, so please give it a try!

2.1 beta 3 is now available, see first post for details and links.

For people for who this does not work, like with me, a little to old gfx card, dxreport says dx12 (hardware11.1). Will tmfx v1.99 keep working with newer drivers and also on new yet to be released hardware?

That's why we keep this line going, currently v1.991.

what’s it doing? i have 2.03 installed and every time it launches the window is empty and i have to “show new window” and select “mixer window” and then it shows the console/faders etc.. and it keeps the empty grey window open behind it which i then close.

on MacOS tahoe 26.5, apple silicon M5 Max

I think what BonJavi is referring to is the "Dandruff effect"? I've also noticed this issue still exists in beta3. The window height still increases by a few pixels after a restart.

https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 69#p250369

This seems to be a Windows related issue ?

Here on my Mac the window size and also the location of the window is saved and recalled correctly.

Hello.

Sorry I didn't mention it earlier. I have Windows. This is an image of how I configure my window.

The following screenshots are from two occasions when I started the computer and opened Totalmix; this is the result:

Greetings!

Hello.

I have only one monitor.
When it comes to starting up the interface, just tell me what to try, and I'll do it.

I'm attaching my Workspace

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aniUwZ … sp=sharing

i haven’t tried any of the betas. other than this window issue it works fien and i’m working on a project so don’t want to go w/a beta. i’ll wait for official release.

The first thing that comes to mind (is very obvious): You use the 2 row mode, which most people do not. Maybe that is the reason for the various window sizes and/or Zoom states. We'll check that, and thanks for the Workspace.

Thanks!

Reporting a problem: DAW All MIDI Communication Lost After Second TotalMix FX Exit.

Steps to Reproduce

1. Launch TotalMix FX and leave it running.

2. Start the DAW.

3. Close TotalMix FX using File → Exit.

4. Launch TotalMix FX again.

5. Close TotalMix FX a second time using File → Exit.

Result

Immediately after the second exit of TotalMix FX (since the DAW session was started), all MIDI communication within the DAW is lost. This includes the Mackie Control protocol connection, communication with the Novation ReMOTE SL MIDI keyboard, and all other my MIDI devices. The issue has been consistently reproduced with Fender Studio Pro 8 and Steinberg Nuendo 15. Restarting the DAW restores normal MIDI communication.

Additional Information

The behavior differs depending on the MIDI backend used by the DAW:

Steinberg Nuendo 15 with MIDI Port Setup → Use Device "WinRT MIDI" enabled: MIDI communication is interrupted immediately after the second exit of TotalMix FX, but it is automatically restored after a short delay.

Steinberg Nuendo 15 using the Windows MIDI / DirectMusic backend: MIDI communication is permanently lost after the second exit of TotalMix FX and is not restored until the DAW is restarted.

Video demonstrating the issue: https://youtu.be/5bVb_pYdp_w

TotalMix FX 2.10 beta 3, Windows 11

Thanks again for the very detailed and thorough report. Unfortunately we were not able to reproduce the issue. Taking into account that the procedure to cause it involves a very unusual restart of TM FX, we kept this on our list, but also have to continue with more severe issues.

I am on Windows 11, testing 2.1 beta 4, UFX II.
Some behavior issues regarding channel names, renaming, and other:

1) When activating "names", for a channel that is set as talkback source and has a longer name (e.g. "ADAT 16"), the talkback icon is overlapping the text.

2) Normally when hovering over a channel name with the mouse pointer, it lights up, and double clicking opens the rename window — this is not working for assigned channels (e.g. assigned as main out or phones). They can smoothly be renamed from Channel Layout, but it is much harder to navigate in a recording session.

3) When a channel is set as talkback source (F3 → Set talkback input), the "hover and double-click" to rename behavior is disabled (because "Talk" cannot be renamed), and enabled when talkback is removed (F3 → Set talkback input none); however, the enabling and disabling of "hover and double-click" does not update until toggling "names" off — on — off after changing F3 → talkback input.

4) The coloring of the Talk channel line under the name still feels buggy. For a white channel the line is blue; changing the color to another changes the color of the line; assigning talk to already red channel gives red text with a blue line. I think it would feel more robust if the line were the same color as the text at all times.

5) When crossfeed is enabled and I want to disable it, I have to select "crossfeed" from the dropdown menu, which is counterintuitive.

6) Clicking Help → TotalMix FX Help, spins the mouse spinner for a second, but nothing is happening. I really want to know what the new shortcuts are . (I am hoping to finally have a shortcut for "names" for faster patch work).

7) Optional feature request — When working in submix mode, the synchronized submix selector under each fader is not useful in my workflow. I would be very, very thankful if there were an option to replace it with the channel name so I can see both the channel name (bottom) and the input name (top) at the same time. For example, I want to turn a potentiometer for kick gain on my ADAT AD converter. I see "Kick", I see "ADAT 11", I turn ADAT 11. Right now I see "Kick", I grab the mouse, I find "names", I lock my eyes on Kick, I click names, I see "ADAT 11", I turn ADAT 11, I switch names back — very slow, and I make mistakes in recording session soundchecks.

I am very happy about the v2.x update, big thanks to RME team!

There is no perfect solution for this (Talk must be identified as Talk no matter what), and I also don't see the issue, except for 'good looks'. As the first character is overwritten you will still be able to know what input this is, as the channel number is typically at the end of the string.

That's an intentional restriction, as new users quickly lose overview and don't understand nothing anymore when easily changing the Control Room names to whatever. First this was disabled at all, later on we allowed it via the Channel Layout dialog for experienced users. But that's as far as we want to go.

Thanks, we'll have a look.

You mean the list entry should be 'crossfeed off'. I agree.

There is no help file for 2.1b4, and also no updated one. The help included with release 2.03 is still valid.

This is not a good idea, not even as option. The lower label shows the routing target. Changing that will completely confuse a lot of new and even not so new users of TM FX, and disable core functionality.

To see which Inputs and Playbacks are used by given Output may be investigated if one presses submix button in mixer layout section.

To see which Outputs use given Input/Playback may be investigated in dropdown list that opens when pressing bottom of fader section. But it shows original names, not user ones.

I agree that something like you suggest might be handy. Maybe implemented a bit differently, instead of frame dot or double line instead of single below fader name.

By the way, framing the selected output has been my idea.

Over time I found out that it is better to use fewer colors not to overstress the eyes. Less is often more.
Therefore, I am not convinced that this is a good idea.
Additionally, consider that it is not mandatory that an output is colored.
It might be even more irritating that sometimes a color is used to visualize a submix by colorization and sometimes not.

Another thing has been mentioned by Kubrak. Learn to use what TotalMix FX offers to show a submix
- The name of the submix at the base of faders
- The little button called "submix" on the right side

Then I have doubts, that people understand the colorization at all if they do not understand submix mode.
They will, of course, see colors (or not, as I mentioned), but whether they draw the right conclusions out of it?! ...

As I mentioned already, sometimes less is more.
Read the manual and watch the YouTube videos; submix mode is no rocket science.

Submix mode is routing made flexible and "isi pisi".
Select an output, watch the fader setting of the top/middle rows, and voila, this is your routing for the selected HW output (aka "submix"; hence the name "submix mode").

I do not understand how this should work. You can only visualize one at a time.

Sorry, also here I do not understand the issue. What do you mean with "vertical vs. Horizontal"?

Feel free to use Viso. Sorry but I do not get the point what the issue is, and what should be solved exactly how.

What exactly do you regard as difficult, knowing that submix mode shows you the routing of a selected submix.
I think this is basic information/knowledge which is needed anyway, as a basis to understand any kind of visualization.

Submix mode will stay as easy as it is, no matter how you move the faders around in the top, middle, or bottom row.
The order of channels inside of a row doesn't change anything in regards to submix mode and how it works.

First of all, thank you to everyone here for the lively discussion on this matter. To avoid any confusion, I would like to point out again that TotalMix has a submix function for the routing mode and a sub switch for the layout presets. The Submix Routing Mode allows the user to read out the respective channel fader positions of the inputs and playbacks on the selected output channel. The selected output name is automatically displayed below the inputs and playbacks. In contrast to free mode. This functionality can be confusing for TotalMix newbies. The Sub switch in the Layout Presets automatically hides all input and playback channels that will not send a valid signal to the selected output. This sub function actually corresponds to my feature request above in a slightly different way. However, you always have to select the respective output channel with a mouse click. With my suggestion above, all channels remain visible, and you can get a quick routing overview using the mouse over function. In addition, the temporary frame colors would simplify a quick overview. And as I already wrote. This new function should then be able to be activated under the settings or deactivated as usual.

Yes, I know that what seems simple thing (like naming thing in the list) may be close to impossible to add to old code. I take care for almost 35 years old code.....

And would not be visual presentation (using dot, double line below name or like) easier to implement? Then probably less people would ask for user names in that list as they would have visual marks on outputs (on request).