TotalMix FX 2.1 now available as beta (Page 2 of 2)

This scaling issue is not a thing under Mac, so no update.

But I also have this issue on mac. That's Tm Fx 2.1 b4, MBP M1Pro, Mac Os  26.6.1. After reboot the Tm Fx window is upscaled, zoomed in by a few points. Not a big issue, bc I can zoom out, but still it ocures after each reboot.

Why reboot mac? Well, it's a Macbook Pro, I often play gigs, so before I leave home, I turn off my Mac and put it in a laptop case, put my gear in my trunk (laptop, microphones, stands, audio interface and so on) and off I go. Anyway, I would never put a laptop into sleep mode and then put it a case and for example carry it around in a backpack. I always turn it off. I don't trust Apple corp that much, bc it might wake from sleep and turn on fans and not get enough air and burn. I thought it was obvious, but maybe there's sth that I don't know.

By this, you are only hiding a defect that might have been introduced already days ago.
If there should be an issue, then it's better to restore a backup of only 1 hour or 1 day ago,
instead of one that is a couple of days old.

Besides that, it's always beneficial to work with a freshly initialized operating system.
Especially before important tasks.
You can never know whether an OS or software update introduces something like a memory leak.

So the definitive preference is to boot instead of piling up several days of runtime.
It's a desktop system where you can do it, not a server.

Anscheinend ist Strom in der Schweiz noch nicht teuer genug...

Unfortunately, I have to confirm these scaling problems in version TotalMix 2.1b5 too. At first I thought that this problem could be due to my two computer monitors, each with different scaling. (43' main monitor with 3840x2160 resolution and 125% scaling and a 27' monitor with 1920x1080 resolution and 100% scaling) But I think the problems with this will be more profound.

I have noticed the following observations: if you switch from the normal view to the '2 row' or to the '2 row in' view in the new TotalMix version, then the scaling of TotalMix will automatically change. This is strange and should definitely not happen in this way. Can anyone here confirm this behavior?

Furthermore, this behavior also occurs if I drag the TotalMix window over to my second computer monitor and then move it back to the main monitor. The scaling is always changed. This is certainly not the intention. It seems to me that a far-reaching remedy from RME is required here.

You seem to talk about something different. In TM FX 2.0 we have zoom, so other than the old version the window keeps its size when changing to 2 Row mode, and the window content is automatically zoomed to fill the window. That is not a bug, that is a feature.

Using different monitors with different scaling makes it pretty complicated to keep/remember states for an app like TM FX that can zoom its content (if you try this with another app that app most probably does not have such a graphical zoom feature, so might work as you expect). I don't want to downplay this, but both such setups and constantly moving TM FX around are not typical setups/workflows, so not our highest priority in fixing. But of course, in the long run we will try to improve this even more.

But as said, that is not the current topic here. B5 Windows included code changes and fixed scaling issues with window sizes reaching the max horizontal or vertical monitor size. We will check out the other issues reported here again, also under macOS. Thanks for all the feedback!

Just to clarify. Do you use the old user interface, that is included in TM2? Because it has a few fixed resolutions, not the new user interface.

But I guess, fixed scaling is intended for old interface as it is not freely scalable. Why do you use scaling for the new interface? One may set the size freely according the taste.

I am on Win and it does not seem me that TM is bigger after the restart. But if it is one or two pixels more, I would not probably recognize it.... I use scaling 100%.

After testing the scaling again, I realized that I had probably made a mistake in my thinking. My basic idea was to have TotalMix 2.0 at maximize window position on the main monitor to utilize the entire window width. And that's exactly what you should not do with the new scaling function of TotalMix 2.0! On the other hand, if you manually drag the top and side window frames of TotalMix 2.0 to the desired frame size, you can use the zoom scaling to achieve a suitable zoom level, which will retain its size even after a computer restart. This is not the case with a maximized Totalmix 2.0 window. There are obviously problems with the chosen scaling. You have to keep this fact in mind.

Nevertheless, RME should take care of the matter and observe the behavior of the scaling with a maximized TotalMix 2.0 window and make improvements if necessary. Another point still remains to be clarified. The additional TotalMix 2.0 windows (Preference, Settings, Room EQ etc.) no longer open centrally on the computer screen, but rather near where you open them with the mouse. This means that a Room EQ in the Control Room area will open in the lower right half of the screen. If you use multiple computer monitors, as in my case, the Room EQ is displayed illegibly between two monitors. So you have to keep pulling this window back into the readable area. This is not a user-friendly solution at all. I would like to have an option again so that the additional TotalMix 2.0 windows open in the central middle of the screen.

I have attached some photos here where you can visually understand my comments above.         

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1donnVt … sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FUkanN … sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15HvEao … sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tIaqJq … sp=sharing

Please see the description of the pictures. (From top to bottom)

In the first picture with the full screen mode you can see how the upper input row (all 30 mono channels of the UFX II) will protrude into the right control strip area due to its unintentionally scaled size, so that you can no longer see all the channels at once. This means that after every Windows restart I had to click again and again on the 135% scaling under the 'Windows' menu item in order to be able to see all the channels under the input row without scrolling horizontally. See picture two from above. Unfortunately, I came up with the idea far too late to leave the full screen mode and instead manually align the TotalMix 2x window pages to the size of the 43' computer monitor. Sorry for that. In the third photo without full screen mode you can see that the upper input row will have optimal scaling and will be very close to the right control strip without creating large gaps. And the good thing is that this view remains the same even after restarting Windows. Apparently unwanted scaling occurs when operating with the new TotalMix 2x in full screen mode. Maybe RME itself would like to test again.

Let's come to picture four from above: I would like to have an option again so that all additional windows of TotalMix open twice centrally in the middle of the monitor. Especially if you will be working with a fairly large screen or even using multiple screens. As you can see in the picture, the Room EQ of a channel in the right Control Room area opens illegibly between two screens at the bottom right edge. So you have to keep dragging this window into the readable area. This is very annoying and should not occur in mature software. This point should be considered independently of the new scaling function.

Sorry, but the posted pics were (at least for me) quite irritating. Simply because in correct scaling 135 you cut off the rest of the desktop (height is only 1560 pixel instead of 2160). So finally I was able to reproduce this effect: one has to go full size window (upper right), then select 100% (on my monitor) or 135 on yours etc, so that an unused lower area appears (the window is still in full size mode, but it is not for the bottom edge). Now rebooting TM FX thinks it was in full screen mode and fills it all. Or something similar happens.

We'll see if that can be handled with Windows methods.

Sounds like a possible workaround. Please note the fixed scaling ensures pixel accuracy, which becomes easily visible on low resolution (aka non 2 or 4k monitors). We had enough people complain about 'aliasing' artefacts in the early beta phase (which I personally could only see with a magnifier, but bothered them).

The above case from Trommeltotti is quite unique, and already had us scratch our heads before in the previous fixes, as we had to learn that Windows misses clear indicators for max size windows in horizontal and vertical direction (for programmers). While we were able to fix these, this one is a variation of it that seems not yet handled correctly.

Windows have means to get Max sizes of physical monitor. It becomes more tricky if more displays are used and also if scaling is used. And I do not know, if those functionalities are accesible in multiplatform library, that you probably use. But generally, one may get information about number of monitors and their physical sizes. And also the usable size (screen minus taskbar).

Seriously? Please read again what I wrote and try to understand it. TM FX already has a lot of sophisticated multi-monitor support, plus we know how to get simple and advanced monitor, screen and window size information. Very obviously.

Many thanks for the new Global OSC. It is going to make a dramatic impact on my workflow!

1) Loading Quick Workspaces through this new Global OSC hasn't been implemented. This is a function that works perfectly with the "old" style OSC (via loadQuickWorkspace 1..30).

2) On one of my Windows 10 computers, the font size in Preferences and Settings is oddly large and it's getting cut off. The GUI is working perfectly - it's just the text that's funny: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-FdGRg … sp=sharing

3) I've noticed that Mixer Settings are saved as part of each Workspace. My opinion is that these settings should NOT travel with the Workspaces. Most of the settings in this menu feel system-wide to me. When I am making a tweak to the OSC settings, I need to manually propogate those changes to every Quick Workspace (of which I have many)

4) More Layout Presets & Snapshots: I know this is a difficult change given the current GUI code and constraints. However, I thought of a possible workaround. Global OSC could push and pull Layouts/Snapshots above the current limitation of 6. This way, advanced users could make use of this feature for high channel count devices and novel controller concepts, but the GUI would stay clean and just showing the current 6 slots.

@MC Do you think you could get TotalMixFX to reconnect to MIDI devices after they are unplugged and plugged back in again on Windows.  Currently if a USB MIDI device gets powered down during sleep or it's unplugged and plugged back in, then we need to toggle TotalMixFX -> Options -> Enable MIDI Control off and on to get them working again.

You might not expect this issue to come up very often, but it does, many times a day.  Like many users these days, most of my gear is conencted through my monitor (which dubs as a KVM switch).  And every time I put my computer to sleep, turn off my monitor, or cycle though my machines, I have toggle that option again.

You have to turn off "Options"/"Submix linked to OSC Controller" for the selected OSC controller.
This option is helpful to synchronize TotalMix windows with remotes in Mackie-style OSC, but it's a conceptional question to disable this functionality perhaps completely for Global OSC.

I'm not sure this is the right place, but I have a feature request for Totalmix: I'd LOVE the ability to reorder channel faders. E.G. I have one outboard effects unit that comes in on inputs 3-4 on the Fireface, and another uses adat 7-8. I'd like to be able to place these together at the end of all my inputs, for mental clarity. (Due to requirements of impedence/level, I can't just move them around to different physical inputs.)

If there's a better place to request this, please let me know. Thanks!

Since I no longer maximize the scalable TM 2.0 window in Windows 11, the settings dialogs open centrally in the middle of the screen again.

In contrast to the conventional EQ's and the Dynamic's, the Room EQ opens in a freely scalable size and can be moved freely in the Windows screen after opening. It would be enough if the respective Room EQ in the Control Room area always opened towards the inner center of the image instead of extending further to the right. The Control Room area is usually displayed very close to the right edge of the screen. However, it would be best if TM 2.0 could remember all window arrangements even after each Windows restart.