Not sure what you'd expect. Windows won't see an "ASIO device" - if you run ASIO software, you should see the ASIO driver, however. You may need to look at what Tidal is doing here, I don't see anything apparently wrong on the RME side, and there are no known issues...

Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME

Thank you for your very prompt replies gentlemen.

Yes, Reaper sees the Madiface.

But windows insists on calling the ADI 2 'Analogue 1+2' (not Madiface ASIO) and is just sending it the windows audio, not offering any opportunity to bypass windows audio by using ASIO.

I can only compare it to my Cambridge Audio DAC -  I bought the DAC, plugged it into my laptop,  downloaded the ASIO driver , ticked a couple of boxes as instructed and it worked first time with Tidal (and Foobar) . It bypasses the windows audio and switches sampling rate depending on what Tidal is sending it. (which looks to me like Tidal using ASIO?)

That's all I expected the ADI 2 to do.
It's just a  domestic hifi,  which I think is what you are aiming this product at. It should just work!

If the Cambridge works perfectly and the RME doesn't,  my feeling is that the issue is with the RME.
Or rather the driver which is not working properly? In device manager it says 'device not migrated' - perhaps this is a clue?
I've got the little square fire icon at the bottom of the screen - should I have anything else? Totalmix for example?

Your further thoughts on the matter would be most welcome.

Thanks

James.

Thanks for your attention to this Mattias, greatly appreciated.

I've done some further investigation
Cambridge Audio DAC shows as 'CA USB Audio' in Windows and in Tidal.
In Foobar it is CA USB Audio ASIO driver.
You are right, the Cambridge is not using ASIO with Tidal, but it is avoiding the windows audio volume controls and switching sample rates as required. (This is presumably the Wasapi you mention)

The RME works fine with Foobar, switching sample rates as determined by what foobar is playing.

However with Tidal the RME (Analogue 1+2) appears to be resampling everything to whatever rate is set in the little fire box window.
Tidal  plays at 44.1. RME says 48. Tidal plays at 88.2 RME says 48. (or 88.2 if I change it manually.)

With the RME driver uninstalled the outgoing sample rate appears to be fixed by whatever is set in windows. (and without the driver there's no ASIO for Foobar)

Is this all as it should be?? Is that how it's supposed to work?

Because if it is I have spent a lot of money on the wrong box.

As a domestic listener I want to listen to various different things at different sampling rates without having to worry about switching anything.
In a studio it's fine - you set your sampling rate for the project and forget about it. But at home I might want to listen to a CD, a 48 wav , a 44.1 stream. an 88.2 stream and then a 44.1 wav, all one after the other, with minimum fuss.

My point being that if the ADI 2 is aimed at the high end hi fi user then it's not really doing the job is it?
It should be effortlessly extracting the highest quality possible from whatever it is presented with.

Unless I am missing some fundamental point it appears that  my £150 Cambridge DAC can deal with whatever it is presented with far more elegantly that the £850 RME. Can this be right? Or is it that the ADI 2 is really a studio device which has not yet been fully adapted for domestic use?
I was attracted by the high quality D/A and the DSP possibilities but now I'm puzzled and disappointed.

Your further thoughts would be much appreciated

James.

Thanks for this Olli.

I'll look into Audirvana.

I really didn't want this to turn into a nightmare of research and user forums  and so on. I just wanted to plug it in and listen to music!!

Do you understand what is happening with the USB input when the ADI decides for itself on the sampling rate for you, regardless of what's being presented to it?? Is it just resampling the Windows audio?

I'm not really blaming the ADI 2 - just pointing out that the hifi type demographic of purchasers might want it be able to extract the highest quality possible from laptop streaming. (Like the Cambridge does!)
Cheers

James.

hi matthias,

when will your dac work with standard windows drivers to use WASAPI (Exclusive)? the cheapest audio convertes support this option like this one: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0779S … &psc=1

right now you need to use converter to bring tidal high-res audio bit-perfect to your dac.
as writen before: all other dac's like mytek, cambridge, ifi work fine with standard windows audio drivers to use WASAPI (Exclusive) for dynamicaly changing the sample rate.