Topic: Saffire Pro 40

Hi folks, I'm new to the forum and may get some things wrong. I have a Focusrite Saffire Pro40 which was relegated to be a mic pre after Windows 10 and Focusrite dropped it like a stone. It wont work via the firewire ports because of the lack of driver support. As a preamp I have it sending 8 channels via Adat to an Audient ID14 which only has Adat in. My question therefore is, would a Digiface USB allow me to use the Saffire as a sound card again in a stand alone mode with the Digiface sending DAW returns back to it via the Adat in on the Saffire.

2 (edited by ramses 2021-10-03 18:38:15)

Re: Saffire Pro 40

Well, Focusrite (I also had once, LS56). Now look, how long RME updates drivers for their devices... for the Fireface 400/800 it's been around 20 years now.

Of course you can route audio from PC to the ADAT outputs of the Digiface USB as you prefer.
In TM FX each output can have a submix of its own.

But I wonder how you will set the routing for the Saffire Pro 40 for stand-alone mode if there are no Win10 drivers anymore? Or if you ever want to have routing changes. It's all too complicated to impossible if there are no drivers.

My personal opinion: I would sell everything and buy a RME recording interface. Then you can make a big hook at the topic. In the long run, this is the better solution in every respect and can then also be operated much better and is also much more fun.

How much would you want to invest in it?
What are your main use cases ? Which inputs and outputs do you need ?
Do you have a PC, which you could also use PCIe cards or a Laptop ?

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub13

3 (edited by CrispyChips 2021-10-03 20:30:16)

Re: Saffire Pro 40

Mr hughblaney, I wrote the following post earlier today but refrained from posting it as I wanted to give time for someone with specialist knowledge of RME products to answer first.

Ramses fits that bill pretty well, so now I’m posting my thoughts, which I trust to be of genuine service to you. (I presume you are from Ireland. Last time I played in Ireland it was touring with American singer/Hollywood actor Pat Boone, if you can remember him).


Quote: “I have a Focusrite Saffire Pro40 which was relegated to be a mic pre after Windows 10 and Focusrite dropped it like a stone.”

Welcome to the forum. I trust someone will be along to attempt to directly answer your inquiry regarding the specific RME products.

Meanwhile I would like to address your thinking, regarding the wider strategy looking forward. With respect, I would give pause and take time to think a bit more.

I believe I’m correct in stating that in 2019 Focusright dropped all firewire development. No Windows 10 Driver. Thus, the discontinued model (probably considerably older), is now several years on from its ongoing support being dropped by Focusright. Whilst Microsoft are presently bringing out Windows 11. Things have improved in the recording interface world, in the interim.


I have considerable sympathy for your position as over the years I have purchased a number of excellent recording systems in professional use.

So, I fully understand the desire to keep using equipment one feels is fine for what you are using them for, and having no desire whatever to completely ditch them.

However, despite the wrench that involves, I found myself taking exactly that radical decision to ditch two completely good recording systems, basically because the manufacturers ongoing support for them, had ceased. There comes a time and a season for such things.

In short, I think your best move would be to invest in a new RME recording interface.

One of the great advantages of the RME interfaces is the long ongoing user support for the company’s products that extends to some products over 20 years old.

Furthermore, in the recording world as in the computer world, things advance, mic preamps improve, digital conversion improves, latency improves along with a host of substantive additional advantages, that others better qualitied in RME product knowledge could outline to you.

Beyond that, the brilliance of TotalMixFX routing system software makes areas of recording interface use that perplex and baffle many, extremely straightforward indeed. A virtual breeze in comparison to the complexities of many competitor systems. Some of which have been a nightmare for many.


I retired a few years ago, so don’t want a lot of hard work.

Therefore, my advice to you would be to make an investment in the best RME interface you can afford and build on it over time if needed. 

Benefit from a superbly high, sound quality, with transparent preamps, a software system that is easy to learn and use and ongoing product support that put your mind at ease about the future.

The RME system I have is the simplest and easiest to use system I have ever owned (and I have owned quite a few from the onset of computer recording). RME Drivers are rock solid. Hailed all over the internet as exemplarity by professionals I respect.


Drive forward and thoroughly enjoy recording your music.

Don’t try to drive forward, looking backward in the rear-view mirror.

There are a great many problems that usually occur, looking two ways at once.

Avoid those issues and thoroughly enjoy being able to focus your concentration on making music!

Re: Saffire Pro 40

Thanks guys for the feedback. I will consider your advice carefully and most likely will go for an RME interface. And yeah, I do remember Pat Boone.  Cheers, Hugh

5 (edited by ramses 2021-10-04 12:52:30)

Re: Saffire Pro 40

You can have a look into my Excel Sheet to compare different USB, Thunderbolt interfaces.
It's detailed and contains information from different sources (Web, Manuals, RME user forum).
[ Please note, the PCIe based interfaces are not included ]

Blog article: https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/ind … B-MADIfac/

Direct link to the Excel file: https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/index.ph … -04b-xlsx/

Direct link to the PDF file: https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/index.ph … 6-04b-pdf/

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub13