1 (edited by integra 2024-08-01 13:23:22)

Topic: ADI-2 Pro 44.1/ 48 kHz hight frequency's distortion

Hello.
Very strange problem.

Setup.
ADI 2 Pro with latest drivers and firmware.
ASIO mode.
Sample Rate - 44.1 and 48 kHz.
Software - Adobe audition 2023, iZotope RX 11, REW. All checked.
Sine wave.
Use included Software generator in all Apps.
Frequency's upper 12 kHz and up to checked 20 kHz is distorted. More FS is more bad.

Sample Rate - 96 and 192 kHz working fine.

https://i.ibb.co/fddLr9q/9-F94-FCAA-D47-D-4328-A3-E3-22984-EEBA446.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/sF6WnXV/CC9-C89-B4-57-AF-4082-9-C26-4-A9-DD80-C97-DD.jpg

2 (edited by KaiS 2024-08-01 14:49:42)

Re: ADI-2 Pro 44.1/ 48 kHz hight frequency's distortion

This is not a (harmonic) distortion.

This is a modulation between sample rate and the actual sine wave frequency and happens with every DAC.

The sample rate represents a non-infinite time resolution.
Constructing a certain sine-wave frequency out of equal-distant steps (the sample rate) that have no common denominator leads to this amplitude modulation effect if both frequencies narrow each other.

Imagine what e.g. a 16 kHz sine-wave at 44.1 kHz sample rate looks loke in the digital domain.

https://i.sstatic.net/WgwUQ.png
This page has a good explanation of the effect:
https://dsp.stackexchange.com/questions … -frequency

If you do a single shot on your scope you can get something like this:
https://www.musiklehre.at/Bilder/ab005.gif

I‘m not quite sure (can‘t test, don‘t have my measurement equipment at hand), but I think the reconstruction filter even has an influence on that, as the effect is related to aliasing.

Try the “Sharp” filter, it should make this go away.

Re: ADI-2 Pro 44.1/ 48 kHz hight frequency's distortion

Thank you for good answer.
I have this device 6 years.
And don't have any problem with him.
Many projects and many hours without bad results.

Look for example.
20kHz sine wave generated from 3 different apps.
Project - 44.1 and 48 kHz sample rate - have a problem
Project - 96 and 192 all fine.
This took place after last update. And i catch this today.

My Babyface Pro don't have this issue.

Re: ADI-2 Pro 44.1/ 48 kHz hight frequency's distortion

integra wrote:

…My Babyface Pro don't have this issue.

It has the “Sharp”-filter on all the time.

If this happens on ADI-2 with Sharp filter try to revert to an earlier firmware - you might have found a bug.

5 (edited by integra 2024-08-01 15:03:42)

Re: ADI-2 Pro 44.1/ 48 kHz hight frequency's distortion

KaIS! Very, very many Thanks!
Filter SHARP fix this issue.
Need to be Added directly in the separate Page of Manual.

Thank You RME for all!

6 (edited by KaiS 2024-08-01 15:38:19)

Re: ADI-2 Pro 44.1/ 48 kHz hight frequency's distortion

integra wrote:

Filter SHARP fix this issue.
Need to be Added directly in the separate Page of Manual.

It’s already there.
If you’re interested in digital technology’s theory, manual pages 84-86 have a very detailed description of the filter options.

Aliasing and it’s related issues is the single most important phenomenon of digital, even the most prominent parameter for sound, more than bit depth - if you’re starting with 16 bit.

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Re: ADI-2 Pro 44.1/ 48 kHz hight frequency's distortion

And we did not release a firmware update that resets the filters to something else than Sharp or SD Sharp. Means you changed the filter yourself.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME