Topic: DigiCheck NG input assignment for 48kHz and 96kHz

I noticed that the saved workspaces do not work the same in 48 and 96 kHz.

If a workspace is saved in 48kHz with the correct input assignment to meter playback channel 1-6
and is recalled in a 96kHz setting, the input channels are now assigned to playback 33-38.
Madi Hdspe FX in Redundancy mode used here.

In the meantime I have to save extra workspaces dependent on the samplerate.
maybe this could be adressed in a future update?

Thanks, Georg

Re: DigiCheck NG input assignment for 48kHz and 96kHz

Hmm, how can this work?
With higher sample rates you have simply fewer channels due to port multiplexing.

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 15, Win10 IoT Ent

Re: DigiCheck NG input assignment for 48kHz and 96kHz

I guess playback channels 1-32 should stay the same.
And input channels 1-32  as well. I think to make it more user friendly cannot be so hard.

As it is right now it is quite random. I think input and playback channels are in the same pool and renumbered according to the available samplerate. Makes not much sense,
Georg

4 (edited by ramses 2025-09-12 16:31:12)

Re: DigiCheck NG input assignment for 48kHz and 96kHz

The point in TotalMix FX's design seems to be, that everything is related to either physical channels or the number of channels that you transport via USB.

Otherwise it would also be easy to provide the virtual channels that I and other forum members proposed already,
to habe virtual channels for loopback recording, not to spoil real channels that you might need for other stuff.

The rules of thumb seem to be that
- Software playback channels simply match with the amount of HW outputs and
- The number of HW inputs and outputs shrinks as soon as channel multiplexing is in place.

Example: MADI with 64 input and output channels and M-1620 Pro.
At single speed you use 16 of 64 channels (in and out)
At double speed you use 32 of 64 channels (in and out)
At quad speed you use 16 of 64 channels (in and out).
By this you get a different channel count depening on the sample rate (64, 32, 16) and this also can't be changed.

Single speed           Double Speed        Quad Speed
Channel#                # (multiplexed)      # (multiplexed)
1                            1 (1                       1 (1   
2                                +2)                       +2
3                            2 (3                           +3
4                                +4)                        +4)
5                            3 (5                       2 (5
6                                +6)                        +6
7                            4 (7                            +7
8                                +8)                        +8)
...                           ...                          ...
64                          32                          16

^                           ^                           ^
|                             |                            |
TotalMix FX can show you only these input channels "real audio channel" (not the multiplexed)
And, as I mentioned above, you can't have more SW playbacks, because in the TM FX design # of SW playbacks and HW outputs need to match. Might have internal reasons ...

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 15, Win10 IoT Ent

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Re: DigiCheck NG input assignment for 48kHz and 96kHz

This is not about SMUX. Playback channels should not loose their position/assignment as that one does not depend on the number of input channels. This is an issue in the channel list that should be fixed later on.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

6 (edited by ramses 2025-09-12 19:00:36)

Re: DigiCheck NG input assignment for 48kHz and 96kHz

Ok, that would be great indeed; then my assumption was wrong.
Because then … you can simply keep your distribution of audio sources from the PC (could be plenty)
and distribute it to submixes (independent of the number of HW outputs/submixes).

Thanks, Matthias, for clarifying and later changing.

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 15, Win10 IoT Ent

Re: DigiCheck NG input assignment for 48kHz and 96kHz

MC wrote:

This is not about SMUX. Playback channels should not loose their position/assignment as that one does not depend on the number of input channels. This is an issue in the channel list that should be fixed later on.

Thanks for confirming.
Georg