Topic: RME PCIe card with ASUS ProArt Z890 motherboard- a PCIe vs m.2 warning

I just took delivery of a new development PC which is using the ASUS ProART Z890 motherboard.

Only 3 x PCIe slots, but nicely spaced apart, and 5 x m.2 drive sockets... nice and future proof you would think.

BUT - a large GPU will cut access to the 2nd PCIe socket, so you're left with the 3rd socket for something like the HDSPe card.

What they don't tell you in the marketing is that using the 5th m.2 socket renders the 3rd PCIe socket useless and your PCIe card will not be recognised.

So a bit of a waste of money there I think.

Mark.

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Re: RME PCIe card with ASUS ProArt Z890 motherboard- a PCIe vs m.2 warning

Good you found out, thanks for sharing.

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Re: RME PCIe card with ASUS ProArt Z890 motherboard- a PCIe vs m.2 warning

Yes, it took a bit of head scratching... the PC was built for me, I just added a couple of additional m.2's and the RME.

Manufacturers need to be clearer in what their products are actually capable of, it's hardly a cheap motherboard.

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4 (edited by ramses 2026-02-10 17:29:38)

Re: RME PCIe card with ASUS ProArt Z890 motherboard- a PCIe vs m.2 warning

madfiddler wrote:

Yes, it took a bit of head scratching... the PC was built for me, I just added a couple of additional m.2's and the RME.

Manufacturers need to be clearer in what their products are actually capable of, it's hardly a cheap motherboard.


The PCIe / M.2 slot design of current PCs are simply crap.
Most consumer mainboards are only for gamers which only mount a big GPU and a lot of M.2.

And then the nonsense with up to five M.2 slots.
A better approach would have been to get more PCIe slots.
Because 1-2 M.2 storage modules you could also easily mount onto a PCIe card..
Then the user would have the flexibility to use the PCIe slots for either cards or "carrier cards" for mounting M.2.

You need to look for server or workstation mainboards, some of them offer a much better socket layout.
Last time I saw a mainboard for threadripper with a lot of PCIe sockets .. was impressive,
but those two mainboards cost between ~ 750 and 1200 €.
I found those in this offer: https://bestware.com/de/schenker-cad-st … figuration
a) https://geizhals.de/asus-pro-ws-trx50-s … 51982.html  €755
b) https://geizhals.de/asus-pro-ws-wrx90e- … 87988.html € 1169

I am glad that I found a great server mainboard from Supermicro in 2014, which still works great.
https://www.supermicro.com/de/products/ … d/X10SRi-F
It has such a cool PCIe slot design (no M.2 though), therefore I am able to upgrade so many things and still room for a HDSPe MADI FX and different USB3 cards and 2x 10 GBit LAN card with SFP+.

https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/attachment/3534-06-pc-side3-jpg/

https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/attachment/3533-05-pc-side2-jpg/

https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/attachment/3535-07-pc-back-jpg/

https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/attachment/3536-08-pc-back2-jpg/

https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/attachment/3537-09-pc-front-jpg/

Today you even get no good cases so that you could mount SSDs in the front - if you like - like I did and additionally one optical drive(s) and whatever you need.

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Re: RME PCIe card with ASUS ProArt Z890 motherboard- a PCIe vs m.2 warning

madfiddler wrote:

Yes, it took a bit of head scratching... the PC was built for me, I just added a couple of additional m.2's and the RME.

Manufacturers need to be clearer in what their products are actually capable of, it's hardly a cheap motherboard.


They do.  You need to check the particular Mobo's bifurcation table.   The only problem is that this info is usually buried on their webpage.  It is actually something that most people are not aware of until they get to a situation like you experienced.  Sometimes a PCI lane will be shut down, not run when certain USB features are used etc etc.

Re: RME PCIe card with ASUS ProArt Z890 motherboard- a PCIe vs m.2 warning

how about m.2 to PCIe riser cards, any experiences? Their price range is 15 - 50 Eur

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Re: RME PCIe card with ASUS ProArt Z890 motherboard- a PCIe vs m.2 warning

Hopslost wrote:

how about m.2 to PCIe riser cards, any experiences? Their price range is 15 - 50 Eur

There's no spare PCIe socket for me. The 5090 GPU blocks the 2nd PCIe, with the HDSPe in the 3rd and final PCIe.

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Re: RME PCIe card with ASUS ProArt Z890 motherboard- a PCIe vs m.2 warning

madfiddler wrote:
Hopslost wrote:

how about m.2 to PCIe riser cards, any experiences? Their price range is 15 - 50 Eur

There's no spare PCIe socket for me. The 5090 GPU blocks the 2nd PCIe, with the HDSPe in the 3rd and final PCIe.

Look into a PCIe slot extender.  Some of them are low profile enough to easily connect to the "covered up" slot and then connect the other end to your card.  There still might be a few gotchas securing your card, but it can be done.

Re: RME PCIe card with ASUS ProArt Z890 motherboard- a PCIe vs m.2 warning

I meant a "m.2 to PCIe" adapter (I think the protocol is similar enough to call it riser. You only need like an additional 4-pin power) https://www.reichelt.de/de/de/shop/prod … =2788&

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Re: RME PCIe card with ASUS ProArt Z890 motherboard- a PCIe vs m.2 warning

Ahhh right, gotchya, thank you both!!

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