1 (edited by arnojordan 2026-02-16 12:47:43)

Topic: Why Linux is becoming the only alternative for Pro Audio

It is now due time for RME  to finally release a Totalmix version for Linux. Guess why ?

As AI is  integrated in Mac OS and Windows it is very possible that new productions get used as training data for AI audio generators.
I am running a professional recording studio and I would love to switch to Linux to provide a solution for our pro users, and i have absolutely no understanding for the ignorance of the audio industry. At the moment we are running Win10 without an internet connection, which simply sucks.

Come on Mathias, i am working with your hardware since the mid 90ies and i have always been proud of your companyś products and support. Especially the guys in Mitweida have been doing a great job.

PLEASE consider releasing Totalmix for Linux. There is no other way i can see for the audio industry to survive exept with an open source operating system. There is a discussion about forming a group financing a lawsuit at an EU court against audio companies that do not support open source OS.
To me that is simply not the way to go, but because i am in the same boat i can understand the frustration my colleagues are going through.

I have just written an article for Sound & Recording magazine if someone is interested in more details about this topic, it should be released in the march edition.

Arno Jordan
Castle Studios

Linux is awesome

2 (edited by unpluggged 2026-02-16 14:03:28)

Re: Why Linux is becoming the only alternative for Pro Audio

Why your speculative and very biased duplicate post should be of any concern for RME?

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Re: Why Linux is becoming the only alternative for Pro Audio

Hey Mathias,

I think Linux will become unavoidable for Studios working with professional artists because all existing closed source Os have a deep AI integration which raises the concern amongst our professional clients that their newly recorded work is used as training data for AI in the background.
At the moment we are running Win 10 without internet connection, which is a nasty workaround.

that said, is this not an awesome opportunity to finally release a Linux version of Totalmix ?

Arno Jordan
Castle Studios

Linux is awesome

Re: Why Linux is becoming the only alternative for Pro Audio

unpluggged wrote:

Why your speculative and very biased duplicate post should be of any concern for RME?

Ok, i may watch too many youtube videos and therefore tend to overstate things a bit ;-)
But anyway, lets see what the future brings to the table.

Arno

Linux is awesome

Re: Why Linux is becoming the only alternative for Pro Audio

arnojordan wrote:

concern amongst our professional clients that their newly recorded work is used as training data for AI in the background.

ridiculous paranoid.

You can use a SSD for saving the entire DAW project including all recorded files.
Nothing is in the computer for ai.
If this is not enough, set up one computer with no internet connection, just for recording.

There is no need for internet during recording, right ?

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Re: Why Linux is becoming the only alternative for Pro Audio

BTW, DL algorithms don't need some half-baked anonymous home studio project to train on when they can use commercially available music releases for the same task with greater success.

And no, the AI assistants built into some OS do not work in the way the OP believes they do.

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7 (edited by waedi 2026-02-17 04:25:33)

Re: Why Linux is becoming the only alternative for Pro Audio

Non-released material has no measure in popularity success, it is not valuable, useless for further Ai-production.
Apple would never allow the abuse of customer data.
Instead they torture the world with system protection and security-gates.
And Windows is following.
On top of that some people who fear someone (like Google) spy on them, don't want an iPhone but use an Android unit 24/7...?!

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8 (edited by Mike Shield 2026-02-17 09:09:54)

Re: Why Linux is becoming the only alternative for Pro Audio

Dear friends,

There are several logical issues in the claims presented.

First, the idea that unreleased music is “useless” for AI training is technically incorrect. Machine learning models do not learn from popularity; they learn from structure: harmony, rhythm, sound design, and production techniques. For a model, diversity and volume of data matter far more than Spotify chart positions. Being unreleased does not make data worthless.

Second, the claim that “Apple would never allow the abuse of customer data” is an absolute statement and therefore logically unsound. No commercial entity can guarantee “never.” Apple strongly markets privacy, but it has also revised practices in response to past criticism. A closed ecosystem does not automatically equal perfect transparency.

Third, concerns about Windows are not entirely unfounded. Windows 11 includes telemetry by design, and Microsoft Copilot operates at least partially through cloud-based processing. Additionally, the widely discussed Recall feature—which periodically captures screenshots of the user’s screen for “memory” purposes—faced significant security criticism and was delayed and redesigned. This demonstrates that privacy and security concerns are tied to concrete architectural decisions, not paranoia.

Fourth, Android is not a binary issue. There are de-Googled Android variants and alternative mobile operating systems such as Ubuntu Touch. Not every Android user is automatically accepting full Google data integration.

In summary, the comments relies heavily on generalizations and absolute statements without technical nuance. A critical perspective on AI features, telemetry, and operating system security is not conspiracy thinking—it is normal risk assessment in a rapidly evolving technological landscape.

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Re: Why Linux is becoming the only alternative for Pro Audio

ok ok sorry apologize, my post should be an input in the discussion in another direction as it went too much into conspiracy direction.
I know too many people who are seriously ill from conspiracy videos.

Regarding risk assesment, what is the risk ?

If your music is good, why not let Ai use it for learning ? Your music could be a nice influence.

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Re: Why Linux is becoming the only alternative for Pro Audio

Thank you for clarifying your point.

However, the reason we do not want our music to be freely used for AI training is simple: copyright law protects our work. Our music is our intellectual property, and it cannot be used without permission.

It is not about fear of influence or about hiding something. It is about respecting the rights of the creators. Just because something is good does not mean it should automatically be available for any kind of use — especially commercial AI training — without consent.

If someone wants to use our music for learning or training purposes, the proper way is to ask and agree on terms.

Respect for copyright is respect for the artist.


Beyond copyright, this is also about privacy and boundaries in general.

When boundaries are crossed gradually, people are slowly conditioned to accept more and more. At first, it seems harmless. Then it becomes normal. Eventually, things that would have clearly felt wrong at the beginning are no longer questioned.

It is a bit like the “boiling frog” metaphor: if you put a frog into hot water, it jumps out immediately. But if you place it in cold water and slowly raise the temperature, it does not notice the danger until it is too late.

The same can happen with privacy and rights. Small compromises may not seem significant on their own, but over time they can fundamentally change what we consider acceptable.

That is why it is important to draw clear lines early — not out of paranoia, but out of principle.

Re: Why Linux is becoming the only alternative for Pro Audio

Mike Shield wrote:

Thank you for clarifying your point.

However, the reason we do not want our music to be freely used for AI training is simple: copyright law protects our work. Our music is our intellectual property, and it cannot be used without permission.

It is not about fear of influence or about hiding something. It is about respecting the rights of the creators. Just because something is good does not mean it should automatically be available for any kind of use — especially commercial AI training — without consent.

If someone wants to use our music for learning or training purposes, the proper way is to ask and agree on terms.

Respect for copyright is respect for the artist.


Beyond copyright, this is also about privacy and boundaries in general.

When boundaries are crossed gradually, people are slowly conditioned to accept more and more. At first, it seems harmless. Then it becomes normal. Eventually, things that would have clearly felt wrong at the beginning are no longer questioned.

It is a bit like the “boiling frog” metaphor: if you put a frog into hot water, it jumps out immediately. But if you place it in cold water and slowly raise the temperature, it does not notice the danger until it is too late.

The same can happen with privacy and rights. Small compromises may not seem significant on their own, but over time they can fundamentally change what we consider acceptable.

That is why it is important to draw clear lines early — not out of paranoia, but out of principle.

This is utter offtopic here and FUD-invoking post.

BTW, copyright law protects pieces of art from unauthorized usage, from plagiarism, and from unlawful copying.

AI learning from existing art is not unlike living people doing the same. You cannot forbid someone from being inspired by a song, a picture, or a book to create their own work. This is what art is about in the first place.

BTW, I am sick of AI on YouTube or Facebook being used to "identify" allegedly copyrighted works and to claim that my recording of live performance of Handel's work by a friend infringes on copyright of, say, Sony Music. They do not own Handel's work.

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Re: Why Linux is becoming the only alternative for Pro Audio

I understand your frustration, but your post oversimplifies the issue. Saying that AI learning from art is “just like human inspiration” ignores the scale and nature of AI training: machines can ingest entire catalogs of copyrighted works in ways a person cannot, and use them for commercial purposes without consent.

Your point about public domain works like Handel is valid, but that doesn’t justify conflating modern copyrighted recordings or performances with centuries-old compositions. Respecting copyright is not about stopping creativity — it’s about ensuring creators retain control over how their work is used.

Finally, labeling any concern as “FUD” dismisses legitimate discussions about ethics, legality, and the practical impact of AI on artists. Criticism doesn’t equal paranoia.

Re: Why Linux is becoming the only alternative for Pro Audio

Thread closed, please discuss this elsewhere.

Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME