Topic: Need help choosing the right setup.

Hello,
I’ve decided to upgrade my studio with an RME interface for high-quality AD/DA conversion and need help choosing the right model.
My needs:

At least 12 analog line inputs (many hardware synths).
Max 3 mics recorded simultaneously (vocals etc.).
24-bit / 96 kHz operation.
Windows-based setup.
I can install internal cards if needed.
Better if it have more than 8 ADAT in/out (to connect a digital mixer).

I’m also looking for advice on future expandability using MADI or Dante.
I’d appreciate recommendations from experienced RME users (UFX III, UFX+, 802 FS, etc.) and why one might be better.
Thank you!

2 (edited by ramses 2026-02-09 17:19:23)

Re: Need help choosing the right setup.

Hi Mechamilk, welcome to the RME user forum.

What budget do you have?

I would recommend an MADI-based setup. It's simple and proven and has no additional complexity in terms of the network setup QoS configuration.

In regard to support, you have one contact, RME; devices with the Dante chip depend additionally on Audinate and their firmware.

Clock synchronization and change of sample rates is easier with MADI; with Dante (or AVB), the devices cannot automatically follow a clock change and need reconfiguration of the streams, as I read here in the forum.

With 8 ADAT you mean one ADAT port with 8 channels at single speed? When using double speed, you would need two ADAT ports for connecting the mixer to get 8 usable channels.

As you want to record at double speed, there is no other option.
802 FS and UFX II would offer too few ADAT ports for expansions.

1) UFX III (USB3-based)
- 4 Mic (comparable to 12Mic) also usable as unbalanced line and instrument input
- 8x Analog I/O (converter of ADI-2 Pro)
- 2x headphone outputs, can be used as 4x unbalanced line level output
- 1x AES
- 2x ADAT
- 2x MIDI I/O
- 2x virtual MIDI port (MIDI over MADI for remote controlling RME preamps like 12Mic)
- WC
- Autoset, DURec, RoomEQ, Crossfeed, triple SPDIF
- USB3 Class complient mode
- Stand-alone capabilities

2) HDSPe MADI FX
- 3x MADI I/O (2x optical, 1x coax; coax can be replaced by an optional optical daughter card)
- 1x AES I/O
- 1x MIDI I/O
- 3x virtual MIDI port (MIDI over MADI for remote controlling RME preamps like 12Mic)
- 1x headphone output, can be used as 2x unbalanced line level output
- Newer models also support RoomEQ and Crossfeed.

With the UFX III, you have an all-rounder; 4 Mic inputs are already sufficient for you.
You only need an additional device to get enough line level ports.
RME M-1620 Pro is an excellent product offering analog ports supporting up to +24 dBu.
There you will need either a DB-25 to XLR breakout cable or a breakout console.

With the HDSPe MADI FX, you have a huge upgrade potential but need a preamp and converter additionally: M-1620 Pro and 12Mic.

For connecting the mixer via ADAT:
With the UFX III, you then have two ADAT ports free (16ch at single speed and still 8 ch at double speed).
With the HDSPe MADI FX (which has no ADAT ports), you can use the ADAT ports of the M-1620 Pro and route those ADAT inputs/outputs through 8 MADI channels (16 at double speed) that are not in use on the MADI bus.

Also useful to consider:
- ARC USB
- One of the RME reference converters (ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, ADI-2/4 Pro SE)

If you want the upgrade flexibility of MADI (or Dante), you can't use 802 FS or UFX II.
And when working at double speed, then two ADAT ports would not be enough to connect an external 16 port AD/DA converter, most interesting devices have nowadays at min 16 ports.

For comparing USB interfaces, you can take a look into my Excel:
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=35156

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 14, Win10 IoT Ent

3 (edited by ramses 2026-02-09 17:24:06)

Re: Need help choosing the right setup.

UFX III + M-1620 Pro: 2398 + 2890 = 5288 €

HDSPe MADI FX + M-1620 Pro + 12Mic = 1349 + 2890 + 2438 = 6677 €

Plus costs for breakout cable (DB-25 2 XLR) or breakout console.

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 14, Win10 IoT Ent

Re: Need help choosing the right setup.

That is the answer i was looking for!
Your excel file is perfect.
I will use all ADAT on 24bit 96khz so 4 channels per I/O.

Correct me if I'm wrong,
I can take the UFX III and have:
- 12 line INs
- 8 channels ADAT 24bit.
and it give me plenty of possibilities to upgrade later with MADI. 
Thank you for your reply.

Re: Need help choosing the right setup.

You are correct, 8 channels Adat at 96 kHz sample rate
and plenty of Madi, 32 input channels and 32 output channels at 96 kHz.

You use a lot of channels, at one point you will love Totalmix for loading snapshots.
You must have an ARC USB

https://www.rme-usa.com/files/uploads/RME-Products/Accessories/ARC-USB-BE.png

M1-Tahoe, Madiface Pro, Digiface USB, Babyface silver and blue

6 (edited by ramses 2026-02-10 17:09:52)

Re: Need help choosing the right setup.

Mechamilk wrote:

That is the answer i was looking for!
Your excel file is perfect.
I will use all ADAT on 24bit 96khz so 4 channels per I/O.

Correct me if I'm wrong,
I can take the UFX III and have:
- 12 line INs
- 8 channels ADAT 24bit.
and it give me plenty of possibilities to upgrade later with MADI. 
Thank you for your reply.

Some details regarding the analog inputs:

- 8 line inputs in the back of the unit supporting balanced and unbalanced connection.
   These are the normal inputs for external devices that connect with studio line level.
   Input sensitivity switchable between +19 dBu and +13 dBu, max input level +19 dBu.

- 4 Mic inputs in the front, which can be used as instrument and line inputs, only for unbalanced connections.
   There are no fixed ref levels between which you can switch the input sensitivity.
   For this you need to use the preamp gain in TM FX, then the max input level with Gain set to 0 dB is +18 dBu.
   Maximum input level with Gain at 75 dB = -57 dBu

See the manual ch 39.1 for details.

My personal preference is to use balanced connections wherever possible.
Not only studio gear like EQs, Compressors or FX have those, also some keyboards or other devices.

The four inputs in the front I prefer for using with Mics or as Instrument inputs (unbalanced).

BR Ramses - HDSPe MADI FX, M-1620 Pro D, 12Mic, UFX III, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, Nuendo 14, Win10 IoT Ent

7 (edited by hselters 2026-02-11 13:42:55)

Re: Need help choosing the right setup.

ramses wrote:

- 4 Mic inputs in the front, which can be used as instrument and line inputs, only for unbalanced connections.

only the instrument / jack inputs at the front are unbalanced. The XLR is balanced of course and if you turn down the preamp, you can also use these for line levels up to +18 dBu.

Re: Need help choosing the right setup.

So much useful information.
Thank you, can't wait to become part of the RME family.
Should I expect a WOW effect the first time I hear the converters/outputs?

9 (edited by vinark 2026-02-11 16:20:47)

Re: Need help choosing the right setup.

Mechamilk wrote:

So much useful information.
Thank you, can't wait to become part of the RME family.
Should I expect a WOW effect the first time I hear the converters/outputs?

That depends on where you are commimg from. And if you have strong expactation bias.
Also on your monitoring and your room. Converters are only a few percent of the perceived audio quality.

Vincent, Amsterdam
https://soundcloud.com/thesecretworld
BFpro fs, 2X HDSP9652 ADI-8AE, 2X HDSP9632

Re: Need help choosing the right setup.

I'm in the music production since the 90's with an humble home studio. I had quite some good gear for the time some time ago but i didn't upgrade the sound card at the same rate i upgraded my synth army , now i have a low budget interface, and that is my bottleneck at the moment. I just can't wait to compare the difference. smile

11 (edited by waedi 2026-02-17 13:26:18)

Re: Need help choosing the right setup.

What exactly is the bottleneck ?
And what interface is this that you have at moment ?
If you want to record a synth play fully loud it gets distorted ?
Converter has not enough headroom.
Play soft-synth from DAW is laggy with delay ?
Audio driver is too slow.

Both issues will disappear with an RME interface

You can play the synths as loud as you can, the interface will record it as blasting as it is.

M1-Tahoe, Madiface Pro, Digiface USB, Babyface silver and blue