Topic: Data Edit values typed are not what is entered?

We used TotalMix FX v2.01 on a live session last night and discovered that when entering mixer levels manually in a Data Edit window, the values assigned are often wrong; i.e., not what you typed?? We can easily reproduce the problem, but haven't been able to predict what value will be assigned when one is typed.

A video showing the (disconcerting) phenomenon is posted at https://littlemountainmusic.org/downloa … Errors.mp4. We can provide a workspace file if needed, but it occurs after a total mixer reset.

Little Mountain Music
MacBook Air M1, MacOS 26.5, MADIface XT II, 4 x OctaMic XTC, M-32 DA

Re: Data Edit values typed are not what is entered?

Ha! I was coming to mention the same thing.

I was manually entering values for compressor and EQ settings for a live session last night. Often after I typed a value, what was actually saved was not the value I entered. I assumed I mistyped carelessly, but it kept happening. When I paid attention and typed slowly, I saw it was not saving what I typed. Repeating the entered value again always worked.

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Re: Data Edit values typed are not what is entered?

carich wrote:

haven't been able to predict what value will be assigned when one is typed.

For each slider, it seems to remember the lowest level you've manually entered (initially zero), even when the resulting level is different. When you manually enter a level below its lowest, the resulting level includes double the amount below its lowest. The following python code reproduces the input/output behavior:

lowest = 0
while (True):
    level = int(input("\nlevel in:  "))
    print("level out: ", end="")

    if (level < lowest):
        print(lowest - 2*(lowest - level))
        lowest = level
    else:
        print(level)

Changing a level with a slider doesn't affect the next level that results when you manually enter a value. This feels like some kind of trim calculation gone wrong, triggered by manual entry.

Little Mountain Music
MacBook Air M1, MacOS 26.5, MADIface XT II, 4 x OctaMic XTC, M-32 DA

Re: Data Edit values typed are not what is entered?

babul wrote:

Repeating the entered value again always worked.

Yes, because it updates the lowest level remembered on the 1st try, and gives the correct result on the 2nd try. If you try a 3rd time with a lower value, it will go wrong again.

Little Mountain Music
MacBook Air M1, MacOS 26.5, MADIface XT II, 4 x OctaMic XTC, M-32 DA

Re: Data Edit values typed are not what is entered?

This problem does not occur in TotalMix v2.0, and the release notes for v2.01 refer to changes in "Gain adjustment via dialog box". We have live sessions this weekend and always make gain adjustments manually for accuracy; should we go back to v2.0?

Little Mountain Music
MacBook Air M1, MacOS 26.5, MADIface XT II, 4 x OctaMic XTC, M-32 DA

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Re: Data Edit values typed are not what is entered?

Fixed in version 2.02. Please download from our website.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME