1 Topic by all (edited by all 2011-12-02 13:46:31)

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Topic: durec and UFX as a player

hi,

i may buy this device. but i'm still a little bit confused about some issues.


i read there ou there people testing ufx ability to record, in a standalone way, tracks etc.
but quite nothing about playing theses tracks !?


would someone tell me  few things what about playing theses files ?

1- is it possible to create a multitrack track in my computer (outside the ufx) and then transfer it AS A FILE  in a usb stick or HD, to the ufx, and THEN on the road, boradcast it, play it (without any computer) as a cd player would play a stereo track ?

2- is the playing section really adapted to, i don't know euhh, broadcast a soundtrack for the stage ? (i mean is it convenient, not too complicated)

3- is the player very accurate according to the pushing of the start ? ie : when you mean play, then it plays RIGHT AWAY and there is no such annoying little gap of silence ?

4- when one multitrack tracks ends its playing, is the next track would automatically come along right after -aghhh- ?


for exemple of annoying detail that i would not like to find in the ufx,, i noticed (oh yes i did !) that my beloved field recorder fostex fr2, makes a loud pop when playing a file, as it's beginning => no way to use it as a "sound player" on stage, but  ok for checking in the field etc

thank for sharing

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Re: durec and UFX as a player

I've never used mine for broadcasting, but as there are unlimited routing possibilities to any analog output it should be suitable. However unless you are going to record with it I don't see why you would spend that much money on a UFX.

As for the questions:

1. You can play WAV-files on the UFX as long as it is 16 bit or 24 bits.

2. It is not very complicated. But you can not, say, fade in files automatically and there is no crossfade or anything like that.

3. In my experience it plays right away.

4. No.

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many thanks !

well, i WOULD NOT spend that money with only in mind this super multitrack player scenario.
UFX would be the center of a PT10 daw (i need a new sound card anyway). i would also record at home with it, on the quad core tank (tank i won't carry abroad)).

theses answers of you about 2, 3, 4, are ok !

but for that AMOUNT OF MONEY, i would expect this terrific second use to be really CONVENIENT, for sound exhibition or stage oriented projects.

5 . is there any repeat mode ?

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Re: durec and UFX as a player

5. No

As far as I know, it is not really meant to be a broadcasting device.

Why not just connect it to a computer on stage? It would make every play mode available depending on program, and since the UFX is connected digitally the UFX DA converters will do the job.

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Re: durec and UFX as a player

In addition you would get a great mixing console (Totalmix FX).

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Re: durec and UFX as a player

all wrote:

(tank i won't carry abroad)).

Sorry I didn't notice this one.

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Re: durec and UFX as a player

ok i understand your advice.

(no repeat, argh).

of course I would connect it to a computer if mine was notsuch a heavy tank !
that's why i try to understand if theses standalone functions are "featurette" or not...


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8 Reply by dainbramage (edited by dainbramage 2011-12-02 19:22:50)

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Re: durec and UFX as a player

Another thing about your question #2.

The UFX (or any other audio interface for that matter) is not convenient at all for this purpose. It merely has a transport panel on the screen (play, pause, stop and rewind) and you would have to twist knobs in order to get to them. There is no list of files, you will have to switch between them. Again, this is because what you mention is not really the purpose of the UFX standalone operation at all.

If you had a laptop with you on stage however, the UFX would do the job excellent.

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Re: durec and UFX as a player

thanxs for theses detailed description !

file browsing "difficulties" can be very annoying ... hum...

a basic cd player behaviour would be enough for theses very specific (indeed) issues... (imagine that : easy laptop free x- track  broadcasting ! )
but i understand this not the point.

one task = one machine, one says.
this one can do aparently already a lot of things !

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6. what about playing stability ? had someone experienced hippcut or inexpected stop/drop ?

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6. I haven't experienced any unexpected stop with this, nor with any other, device.


Look, if you've got that much money why not spend it on a Fireface 800 and a relatively cheap laptop? The Fireface 800 is also a very high quality interface.

Merely a suggestion.

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....found this tip, according to my Q. 1/ "creating poly ufx readable files outside the ufx"

the free mac-pc sound devices software wave agents, can COMBINE mono track to poly.

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Re: durec and UFX as a player

If you have multi-channels, say more than 6, in the DUREC device, changing playback parameters gets complicated. Using just encoder knobs on the front panel would take at least a minute or so, if you don't practice. After 6 months or so, I'm getting more familiar with the menue structure of the UFX front panel, but still, operating via TotalMix is far far easier.

One day I had 8 channel recording with DUREC, and I didn't have my laptop, but I needed to check each channel separately. It took almost three minutes, just to check each channel was recorded okay. I was just browsing the menu up and down. The key is, the front panel menu is designed to accomplish complicated tasks of Total Mix, using just a 2inch screen.

Again, playback from Durec is meant for confirmation, or quality check of the recording.