1 (edited by trial'n error 2012-05-24 13:05:26)

Topic: Memory I/O Range of the HSDPe Express Card

Hey there,

I am looking for a detail of the HDSPe Express Card (https://archiv.rme-audio.de/download/sh … sscard.pdf).

I've checked the forum (which contain a lot of entries), used the search feature and also had a look to the specs of the product but wasn't able to find this information.

So could someone tell me the memory I/O requirement on which the EC operate?


Just a hint: I know how to find it within the OS but I need to confirm the vendor details not those, assigned by the OS.

The used OS is Win 7.

Thanks in Advanced,

best regards
Nelson

Re: Memory I/O Range of the HSDPe Express Card

Is there no one from RME who can help me with this request?

Re: Memory I/O Range of the HSDPe Express Card

There isn't really any such spec or requirement - what exactly are you looking for, and why...?

Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME

Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME

Re: Memory I/O Range of the HSDPe Express Card

"If the card requires I/O access below 1000h?" - That's the question I need to answer.


The issue is still the same as mentioned in many of the threads of HDSP(e) series: "freeze or bsod with HDSPe cards".

In this case I'm owner of a Dell Notebook as well but when reading the forum it looks like that Apple product owner aren't much more happy with this topic...
I've already read the workaround (disable power feature for EC in bios) but as the bios option doesn't persist and Dell doesn't seems to change this I have to choose the lesser evil for me.

The Info from Dell is quite easy: this is just one EC which cause trouble with their Notebook and all the other are fine.
I've tested (borrowed by a friend) an EC with USB connector from LogiLink which works fine at the Notebooks. So I understand the Info provided by Dell.
The tested card: http://www.2direkt.de/i-sell2u/images/d … PC0055.pdf

I have ran a few more tests with a second Notebook from Dell (M6500) which has a 6 pin Fire Wire Port.
That's why I reinstall Win7 on a dedicated HDD, insert and installed the HDSPe EC to my Notebook and connect it directly to the M6500. The Notebook even freeze if I didn't transfer any files or w/o starting the application from you (hdspmix.exe). I have reinstalled the OS once more w/o installing any driver except of chipset and the one from the EC (v. 3.27) > again the same problem. That allows me to say that the problem is probably caused by your driver.

So I've asked Dell for co-operation to this topic and was quite surprised about the amount of ideas and Info's provided then...
We've found the mandatory different between the Notebooks reported now (which does not work) and those before (which work) is the chipset. Dell has found entries in their data base, that the chipset architecture has changed over time by Intel. They suppose it might be a reason for having such problems and know there is a memory I/O access threshold at 1000hex.

For example they reported me a problem that some old PCIe or EC cards wasn't detected at any of their Notebooks as result of this change. This was fixed by a dell bios release month ago.
Sure it was their duty, so they handle it. But to fix a driver from a different vendor (from their point of view) isn't one and it seems to be the reason, why they didn't enable the option in bios too. It's a change request to enable a workaround but not to fix the actual issue.

At the end I am the customer of both of you and not interested in who will fix it. But I do know whose responsibility it is.
Everything I want, is to use what I have paid for.

best regards
Nelson

Re: Memory I/O Range of the HSDPe Express Card

The other card you tested was likely not a "real" Expresscard, but a USB device. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExpressCard#Standards

The driver as such certainly can not have an effect on PCIe/Expresscyrd physically, esp. with regard to power saving options. I also don't think specific memory access could likely be the cause of problems like we've seen on Dells. On most laptops with similar probems, these disappear when deactivating power saving (e.g. Lenovo).

Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME

Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME

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Re: Memory I/O Range of the HSDPe Express Card

RME Support wrote:

The other card you tested was likely not a "real" Expresscard, but a USB device.

No, it is a real PCIe card, see his link. That doesn't change the fact that there is no such memory error or incompatibility with our cards. The problems come from an incompatibility of the used PCIe phy, which is used by many companies (all having the same problems) and there is no way to fix it as it is poured into hardware - except a change in the notebook's BIOS. Sorry.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME