Topic: Which format sounds better?

In AVB, MILAN, IEEE1722, AM824, etc.
There are many choices, but

Which is the best sounding format?
Which format has the best sound? Which format is the most stable?

And which is better, MADI or AVB?

Should I choose one based on how my system is set up, rather than the difference in sound quality?


I always record about 14 channels with 88.2KHz/24bit recording.

Re: Which format sounds better?

AVB is a set of standards.
MILAN is a subset of AVB.
IEEE1722 is a standard part of MILAN and AVB.
AM824 is a media format within IEEE1722.

So basically you are peeling a big onion. And then, you're comparing it... to an apple (MADI).

To keep the answer short: you can make it dependent on the infrastructure (available cabling/switches). MADI is for fewer channels more 'responsive' since it is a point-to-point protocol - almost instant plug and play. AVB shines when it comes to more complex environments with remote control, and you should use AAF whenever possible because it is more efficient (less traffic passing through the network).

I read here: https://audiomediainternational.com/202 … -dohrmann/ that AVB does sound better than AES3, which is quite similar to MADI. I would leave that judgement up to the end users since such statements are difficult to verify. From a technological standpoint I do not expect audible differences between MADI and AVB.

Best regards,
Max

Re: Which format sounds better?

Thank you for your detailed answer.

Best regards

4 (edited by ramses 2021-01-12 10:12:03)

Re: Which format sounds better?

I wouldn't expect any difference. Why ?

For me AVB / MADI / AES / ADAT is about transport of digital data and only a question of how many channels (bandwidth) over which type of medium (copper, optical).

If we talk about sound / precision, this happens at the A/D and D/A conversion point and is a summary of precise clock, good converters and well designed circuits.

Same with USB2, USB3, Firewire, Thunderbolt ... does any of these sound better ? No. Its also only transport of digital data over the usual available digital computer interfaces and more a question of bandwidth, how many channels you want to transport and availability (e.g. thunderbolt is still rare).

BR
Ramses
X10SRi-F, E5-1650v4, Win10Pro20H2, Cub11Pro, UFX+ (v0.9735), XTC, 12Mic, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE

Re: Which format sounds better?

Hi Ramses, I guess you are right to a significant degree. However some formats are more robust to echos and the resulting jitter. FireWire for example sounded for quite a while better than USB... However I don’t believe that the different AVB formats sound different...

Re: Which format sounds better?

Steadyclock compensates jitter nicely.
And now look at devices like the ADI-2 Pro FS / DAC FS.
D/A conversion is completely indepenend from transport, because the D/A Conversion happens with it's own internal FS clock.

BR
Ramses
X10SRi-F, E5-1650v4, Win10Pro20H2, Cub11Pro, UFX+ (v0.9735), XTC, 12Mic, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE

7 (edited by east-power1130 2021-01-15 14:41:09)

Re: Which format sounds better?

Thank you very much, everyone.
This is the first time I'm dealing with AVB, so I wanted to know if there was any advantage to it.

Kind Regards