Topic: Need your help to connect RME devices!!!

Hello everyone!
I desperately NEED YOUR HELP.

I have a fireface UFX 2 and one octamic 2.
I would like to connect a second octamic 2. Both in ADAT.

My question is how to do that???
ZERO answers on the web, I'm disappointed...

Do I need a Apogee Big Ben (for exemple) or I can connect simply the two octamic in adat and that's enough to clock the fireface and the two octamic together???

Thanks a lot for your help, lights and answers
Jelly.

2 (edited by ramses 2022-01-26 12:23:55)

Re: Need your help to connect RME devices!!!

There were already some threads about this in the forum, pls. use the extended forum search.
And I see no reason for being disappointed either.

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub13

Re: Need your help to connect RME devices!!!

No big ben needed. Just connect both through adat and one word clock cable.
Octa 1 with only adat is master, ufx slave to octa 1, wc out to octa 2, octa 2 slave to wc.

Vincent, Amsterdam
https://soundcloud.com/thesecretworld
BFpro fs, 2X HDSP9652 ADI-8AE, 2X HDSP9632

Re: Need your help to connect RME devices!!!

Looks great!
Last question, do you think that with a BNC T (fireface as master) it can be work?

Ideally, I would like to keep the fireface as master because I'm going to use the AN inputs (jacks) as well.
Thanks for your answer and advice, you're my savior!

Re: Need your help to connect RME devices!!!

Sure that should work too. Although I am not experienced with how to exactly cable it and if it needs termination.
Also since you have only 2 adat ins you are limited to 44 and 48k samplerate.

Vincent, Amsterdam
https://soundcloud.com/thesecretworld
BFpro fs, 2X HDSP9652 ADI-8AE, 2X HDSP9632

6 (edited by CrispyChips 2022-01-26 14:48:51)

Re: Need your help to connect RME devices!!!

Hello Jelly, I am happily blessed with precisely the set up you aspire to in your opening question.

When I hook things up for the first time, even if I am convinced, I know what I am doing, I always validate that by checking with an expert familiar with the specific equipment involved, so below is the procedure that I checked with the RME experts who distribute in my country.

“Just to check the procedure hooking up the equipment…

I will order a 75 Ohm T adapter as. https://www.canford.co.uk/Products/48-1 … NCM-75-ohm

Use ADAT 1 from UFX II (UFX II Master Clock) to OctaMic II (A) 

And word clock out on UFX II to word clock T adapter fitted to (A) OctaMic II unterminated.

Use ADAT 2 from UFX II to OctaMic II (B)

And word clock T adapter from (A) OctaMic II unterminated to word clock on OctaMic II terminated.”


The mains point’s I would highlight are:

Use a 75 Ohm T- Adapter.

Use 75 Ohm Cables.

Do not terminate OctaMic II (A) with the little switch.

Do terminate OctaMic II (B) by pressing the little switch.

Remember you will need a couple of short 75 Ohm Cables for the wordclock if you intend using it.

As ADAT embeds the wordclock pulses within the signal you don't have to.



In regard to the Apogee Big Ben.

Unless you have a complex professional recording studio with all manner of outboard equipment that require hooking together, an external clock is simply not required at all.

In fact, even if you had an external clock, the optimal method of connection is straightforwardly to use the UFX II as master clock.


True story…

I was once with ace convertor designer Dan Lavry, and a whole pile of audio designers,  producers and recording engineers having a discussion and suddenly Apogees top marketing man turned up to chat.

I politely asked him “why Apogee  had decided to title their external master clock, naming it Big Ben?”

He seemed surprised but replied that “they had named it after the famous clock at the houses of parliament in London.”

I very politely explained that “in point of fact, there was no such clock named “Big Ben” in the houses of parliament in London”.

“That “Big Ben” was actually the nickname given to the “Great Bell” in the “Clock Tower” now renamed the “Elizabethan Tower.””

“The correct name of the clock is actually “The Great Clock of Westminster””

“I asked him why they had titled their clock, after a famous English Bell?”


What I explained was clearly news to Apogee, who by now appeared to everyone to be suffering from being poorly and incorrectly named themselves.

This seemed to greatly delight and amuse the various top digital convertor designers, producers and recording engineers present. They could barely contain themselves.

Whilst the poor Apogee representative, looked as if he wanted the floor to open up and swallow him whole. I’m sure everyone was indeed, most sympathetic to his plight.

The moral of the story is to always buy equipment from people who know what they are talking about.

Of course, no one knows what "RME" stands for? They guess but that doesn’t matter.

The folk at RME know, and that’s what really counts!

Re: Need your help to connect RME devices!!!

Many thanks to all for yours answers!
I see more clearly what I have to do now!
I have different options to test and I won't buy an external clock for sure!

I'll let you know here about my tests and final installation!

I'm a RME user since my beginnings. I've owned a Focusrite, an Apollo 8p... I'm always came back to RME!
The preamps quality, conversion, total mix...

As you said, RME know! And the RME community is simply THE BEST.

Thanks a lot again!

Jelly.