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Can someone confirm please that you can save / recall Room EQ settings with a snapshot? For example, have different LFE crossovers / routing depending on your application? I saw in the forums that you CAN, but the manuaul specifically says you CANT.
thanks!
Hexspa wrote:rbpeirce wrote:Thanks. I'll have to weigh the value of room EQ then.
Room EQ is essential, even if you don't implement it in an RME device. Mac has a number of ways to use output EQ. My site has a recent post on this topic with several relevant links if you want to read more.
May I have a link?
Hi, rbpeirce. Thanks for your interest. My article is here:
https://hexspa.com/home-studio-house-curves/
The specific outbound link you may want for Mac is here:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/foru … oid.18450/
Please keep in mind that I only have used EQAPO for Windows, and have no experience applying room EQ using a Mac nor a Linux machine. Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions, thanks.
Can someone confirm please that you can save / recall Room EQ settings with a snapshot? For example, have different LFE crossovers / routing depending on your application? I saw in the forums that you CAN, but the manuaul specifically says you CANT.
thanks!
You most definitely can... however...
It's deeper than that and for good reason. Check out the Workspace browser. (next level up theoretically from Snapshots, if you like). It's absolutely brilliant IMO.
Check out the Workspace browser.
Whats that? URL please.
Please read about it in the Totalmix FX manual. There's a heap of info there.
Please read about it in the Totalmix FX manual. There's a heap of info there.
You should know that I am quite familiar with TM FX ;-)
But I never heard the term "workspace browser"; therefore I became curious.
I can't find anything with "browser" in the UFX III manual, which should contain all TM FX features.
So, could you kindly explain what you mean by "workspace browser"?
I think he refers to the Workspace Quick Select dialog, hotkey W
Thanks Jeff, yes indeed.
mattrixx wrote:Please read about it in the Totalmix FX manual. There's a heap of info there.
You should know that I am quite familiar with TM FX ;-)
But I never heard the term "workspace browser"; therefore I became curious.I can't find anything with "browser" in the UFX III manual, which should contain all TM FX features.
So, could you kindly explain what you mean by "workspace browser"?
Yes apologies for that. Indeed I am referring to the "W" Workspace quick select. Enables the storage of 20 (I think from memory) sets of everything basically. (including Snapshots, Room EQ etc etc).
No problem, thanks.
Even 30 workspaces. The most practical thing is that you can recall the first 9 using ALT-1 .. ALT-9, which is great for either switching between different workspaces or for quick recovery of settings.
And RoomEQ saved in Snapshots is a newer TM FX feature, not yet mentioned in manuals.
Just a short praise:
I use the Hdspe Madi FX with ARC USB, for a 7.1.4 monitoring setup with Sonarworks SoundID and it works fantastic.
Snapshots 1-4 have 0%, 40%, 70%, and 100% Room correction measured and imported with SoundID for all 12 speakers. Including volume and delay. Fantastic. Thank you very much for this. It took only 2 hours to set it up.
Georg
Just a short praise:
I use the Hdspe Madi FX with ARC USB, for a 7.1.4 monitoring setup with Sonarworks SoundID and it works fantastic.
Snapshots 1-4 have 0%, 40%, 70%, and 100% Room correction measured and imported with SoundID for all 12 speakers. Including volume and delay. Fantastic. Thank you very much for this. It took only 2 hours to set it up.Georg
Hi. Im also a Sonarworks SoundID Reference user and currently usa a FF 802. Was thinking of upgrading to a UFX II so I can export the SoundID EQ settings to the Room EQ inside Totalmix.
Question for you if you dont mind?
How does the EQ resolution compare for you between the SoundID EQ and the 9 band RME Room EQ?
My SoundID EQ graph looks way more busy than 9 x Parametric EQ's could provide for inside Totalmix. At least to the eye.
Did the EQ settings 100% translate for you, or are the RME settings more broad?
Thanks!
The busy looking graph includes tons of inaudible, very narrow-band and lower amplitude corrections. These can be easily disregarded with no audible difference. In the end 9 fully parametric bands per channel (!) is more than enough.
The busy looking graph includes tons of inaudible, very narrow-band and lower amplitude corrections. These can be easily disregarded with no audible difference. In the end 9 fully parametric bands per channel (!) is more than enough.
Lovely, sounds good!
Thanks Matthias.
is there any effect on the phase when using the room eq?
I know sonarworks does not correct phase (unlike Dirac live), but in the plugin there are different filter modes with different effects on ringing and phase. "zero latency" and "mixed" mode introducing some phase shifts while linear phase has can cause some pre ringing...
I would just like to thank RME, again, for the fantastic Room EQ feature. And the option to import EQ files from REW, is just amazing.
I am sure I saved hours today.
Pål
Why? REW (Room EQ Wizard) can export the EQs as WAV files for convolution. This saves a lot of time as you don't have to copy the EQ settings manually. Also REW can't compensate just the bass and then you need more than 9 EQs. For RME a convolver would have been a better choice. EQ convolution files are very short so convolution is very fast and performant. Quite unlike a reverb. I'm currently using it in software and it works great.
Edit: And by the way: Many guitar multi-effects units use it for cabinet emulation. Even the low-budget units. So embedded hardware is definitely capable of delivering the required performance.
I'm running my stuff on windows 7. Is there a way to get the room EQ working with just an firmware update of my UFX II and using the front panel of the UFX.
Cheers!
Do the firmware update and add the latest TM FX from our website to your Windows 7 machine. That should work (although I did not try it myself).
Hi everyone, need help with monitoring eq correction with rew. I made the callibration measurements with rew and then tried to import the .txt measurement file in room eq (UFXII) but nothing happen. Any ideas what i'm doing wrong or i missed?
Cheers. Lud.
Do the firmware update and add the latest TM FX from our website to your Windows 7 machine. That should work (although I did not try it myself).
The firmware update worked on the UFX II but just using TM FX 1.93 doesn't do the job and won't show the room eq options. I guess the driver has to correspond. I haven't tried the lastest driver on my 7 machine, but I'm happy for now, since I can manipulate the room eq on the front panel.
Maybe I'm going to run the latest driver on a test machine with 7.
Cheers!
P.S. RME is awesome!
The requirements are documented here, you need not only new firmware, but also a new driver:
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=38691
Hello all,
I have an at least for me strange behaviour (RME UFX III, everything on newest version): I have the room-eq on and use mainly two mixes as start point for working. Both mixes are stored also in the device for offline use.
When I switch between the mixes with TotalMixFX all is fine. But sometimes I don't switch my computer on because just want to use the interface standalone for practicing. When I now switch to another mix on the interface directly, then the room-eq is deactivated.
Is this for purpose?
BR
Werner
Hello all,
I have an at least for me strange behaviour (RME UFX III, everything on newest version): I have the room-eq on and use mainly two mixes as start point for working. Both mixes are stored also in the device for offline use.
When I switch between the mixes with TotalMixFX all is fine. But sometimes I don't switch my computer on because just want to use the interface standalone for practicing. When I now switch to another mix on the interface directly, then the room-eq is deactivated.Is this for purpose?
BR
Werner
Page 67 in the user manual :
FX - DSP Meter. Shows the DSP load caused by activated EQ, Low Cut, Com-
pressor, Auto Level, Echo and Reverb. The DSP of the Fireface UFX III has an
automatic load limiter. If no DSP resources are left further effects can not be
activated. When switching to DS and QS modes effects will be deactivated au-
tomatically until the DSP is not overloaded anymore.
As Room-EQ is not mentioned above I conclude Room-EQ is not DSP based and therefore not available in standalone-mode.
WEM wrote:Hello all,
I have an at least for me strange behaviour (RME UFX III, everything on newest version): I have the room-eq on and use mainly two mixes as start point for working. Both mixes are stored also in the device for offline use.
When I switch between the mixes with TotalMixFX all is fine. But sometimes I don't switch my computer on because just want to use the interface standalone for practicing. When I now switch to another mix on the interface directly, then the room-eq is deactivated.Is this for purpose?
BR
WernerPage 67 in the user manual :
FX - DSP Meter. Shows the DSP load caused by activated EQ, Low Cut, Com-
pressor, Auto Level, Echo and Reverb. The DSP of the Fireface UFX III has an
automatic load limiter. If no DSP resources are left further effects can not be
activated. When switching to DS and QS modes effects will be deactivated au-
tomatically until the DSP is not overloaded anymore.As Room-EQ is not mentioned above I conclude Room-EQ is not DSP based and therefore not available in standalone-mode.
This would be an explanation, yes. But I was thinking that the benefit of the RME Room-EQ is especially that it is DSP based and therefore with very low latency. I' also prettty sure that also the DSP load display is indicating higher load when the Room-EQ is used.
I switch only between mix snapshots on the device. No DS/QS change...
waedi wrote:WEM wrote:Hello all,
I have an at least for me strange behaviour (RME UFX III, everything on newest version): I have the room-eq on and use mainly two mixes as start point for working. Both mixes are stored also in the device for offline use.
When I switch between the mixes with TotalMixFX all is fine. But sometimes I don't switch my computer on because just want to use the interface standalone for practicing. When I now switch to another mix on the interface directly, then the room-eq is deactivated.Is this for purpose?
BR
WernerPage 67 in the user manual :
FX - DSP Meter. Shows the DSP load caused by activated EQ, Low Cut, Com-
pressor, Auto Level, Echo and Reverb. The DSP of the Fireface UFX III has an
automatic load limiter. If no DSP resources are left further effects can not be
activated. When switching to DS and QS modes effects will be deactivated au-
tomatically until the DSP is not overloaded anymore.As Room-EQ is not mentioned above I conclude Room-EQ is not DSP based and therefore not available in standalone-mode.
This would be an explanation, yes.
No. RoomEQ is of course DSP and the display's menu has all the entries to also control RomEQ in stand-alone mode. We will check if that works as intended.
Thanks in advance.
Greets
Werner
We tried and can not reproduce the issue. So we need more details about the stand-alone mode and state:
- please check the state of REQ in the menu of the display screen before and after loading the pre-stored Setup - is it shown on or off? Are all parameters set as expected?
- are you sure that the two Setups that you change from/to both have REQ active? Maybe only one has it active, and the other does not? This could happen when not using the option to load REQs with Snapshots in TM FX.
Thx for reply. I'll double check these things and I'll come back with further details.
br
Werner
Hi Matthias,
Thanks for patience.
I did actually something different than I thought I did. But here is what I found out:
Offline/Standalone use:
* I ensured that everything is stored and saved correctly into the device and shut down my computer
* When computer was off I changed the mixes on the device and everything looked good
* Then I switched my computer on again and loaded the device settings into TotalMixFX. All was fine again.
So everything is fine with standalone use. :-)
What doesn't work is changing mix on the device while the computer is running with TotalMixFX. The Room EQ is in this case deactivated in TotalMixFX.
I had some occasional issues with deactivated Room EQ in the past. I was thinking the reason was that I didn’t store them on the device.
To verify this theory I didn’t actually switch off my computer. So that the conclusion was at the end wrong.
Sorry for inconvenience.
BR
Werner
What doesn't work is changing mix on the device while the computer is running with TotalMixFX.
And that is by design, so no issue here at all.
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