Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

Can someone confirm please that you can save / recall Room EQ settings with a snapshot? For example, have different LFE crossovers / routing depending on your application? I saw in the forums that you CAN, but the manuaul specifically says you CANT.
thanks!

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

rbpeirce wrote:
Hexspa wrote:
rbpeirce wrote:

Thanks.  I'll have to weigh the value of room EQ then.

Room EQ is essential, even if you don't implement it in an RME device. Mac has a number of ways to use output EQ. My site has a recent post on this topic with several relevant links if you want to read more.

May I have a link?

Hi, rbpeirce. Thanks for your interest. My article is here:
https://hexspa.com/home-studio-house-curves/

The specific outbound link you may want for Mac is here:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/foru … oid.18450/

Please keep in mind that I only have used EQAPO for Windows, and have no experience applying room EQ using a Mac nor a Linux machine. Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions, thanks.

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

mattrobertson wrote:

Can someone confirm please that you can save / recall Room EQ settings with a snapshot? For example, have different LFE crossovers / routing depending on your application? I saw in the forums that you CAN, but the manuaul specifically says you CANT.
thanks!

You most definitely can... however...
It's deeper than that and for good reason. Check out the Workspace browser.  (next level up theoretically from Snapshots, if you like).  It's absolutely brilliant IMO.

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Matt McKenzie-Smith (UFXII, UFX, Babyface) MacStudioUltra OS13.2.1
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Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

mattrixx wrote:

Check out the Workspace browser.

Whats that? URL please.

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub14

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

Please read about it in the Totalmix FX manual. There's a heap of info there.

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Matt McKenzie-Smith (UFXII, UFX, Babyface) MacStudioUltra OS13.2.1
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Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

mattrixx wrote:

Please read about it in the Totalmix FX manual. There's a heap of info there.

You should know that I am quite familiar with TM FX ;-)
But I never heard the term "workspace browser"; therefore I became curious.

I can't find anything with "browser" in the UFX III manual, which should contain all TM FX features.

So, could you kindly explain what you mean by "workspace browser"?

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub14

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Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

I think he refers to the Workspace Quick Select dialog, hotkey W

Regards,
Jeff Petersen
Synthax Inc.

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

Thanks Jeff, yes indeed.

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub14

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Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

ramses wrote:
mattrixx wrote:

Please read about it in the Totalmix FX manual. There's a heap of info there.

You should know that I am quite familiar with TM FX ;-)
But I never heard the term "workspace browser"; therefore I became curious.

I can't find anything with "browser" in the UFX III manual, which should contain all TM FX features.

So, could you kindly explain what you mean by "workspace browser"?


Yes apologies for that.  Indeed I am referring to the "W" Workspace quick select.  Enables the storage of 20 (I think from memory) sets of everything basically. (including Snapshots, Room EQ etc etc).

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Matt McKenzie-Smith (UFXII, UFX, Babyface) MacStudioUltra OS13.2.1
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Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

No problem, thanks.

Even 30 workspaces. The most practical thing is that you can recall the first 9 using ALT-1 .. ALT-9, which is great for either switching between different workspaces or for quick recovery of settings.

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub14

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And RoomEQ saved in Snapshots is a newer TM FX feature, not yet mentioned in manuals.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

Just a short praise:

I use the Hdspe Madi FX with ARC USB, for a 7.1.4 monitoring setup with Sonarworks SoundID and it works fantastic.
Snapshots 1-4 have 0%, 40%, 70%, and 100% Room correction measured and imported with SoundID for all 12 speakers. Including volume and delay. Fantastic. Thank you very much for this. It took only 2 hours to set it up.

Georg

213 (edited by R3k 2024-11-16 01:17:12)

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

georgob wrote:

Just a short praise:

I use the Hdspe Madi FX with ARC USB, for a 7.1.4 monitoring setup with Sonarworks SoundID and it works fantastic.
Snapshots 1-4 have 0%, 40%, 70%, and 100% Room correction measured and imported with SoundID for all 12 speakers. Including volume and delay. Fantastic. Thank you very much for this. It took only 2 hours to set it up.

Georg

Hi. Im also a Sonarworks SoundID Reference user and currently usa a FF 802. Was thinking of upgrading to a UFX II so I can export the SoundID EQ settings to the Room EQ inside Totalmix.

Question for you if you dont mind?

How does the EQ resolution compare for you between the SoundID EQ and the 9 band RME Room EQ?

My SoundID EQ graph looks way more busy than 9 x Parametric EQ's could provide for inside Totalmix. At least to the eye.

Did the EQ settings 100% translate for you, or are the RME settings more broad?

Thanks!

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The busy looking graph includes tons of inaudible, very narrow-band and lower amplitude corrections. These can be easily disregarded with no audible difference. In the end 9 fully parametric bands per channel (!) is more than enough.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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MC wrote:

The busy looking graph includes tons of inaudible, very narrow-band and lower amplitude corrections. These can be easily disregarded with no audible difference. In the end 9 fully parametric bands per channel (!) is more than enough.

Lovely, sounds good!

Thanks Matthias.

Re: Room EQ, Crossfeed, Triple SPDIF - UFX+, UFX II, UFX III, UCX II

is there any effect on the phase when using the room eq?

I know sonarworks does not correct phase (unlike Dirac live), but in the plugin there are different filter modes with different effects on ringing and phase. "zero latency" and "mixed" mode introducing some phase shifts while linear phase has can cause some pre ringing...