1 (edited by borisovonline 2024-06-18 11:09:18)

Topic: Fireface UFX III + macOS + FaceTime/Google Meet: No Output sound

Hello!

I have Fireface UFX III connected via stock USB 3 to USB-C cable. There is a problem in macOS Sonoma 14.5.

There is no sound output when calls in FaceTime, Google Meet on regular Software Playback AN 1/2. Any other system audio works fine and even "calling sound" in these appls works fine (as well as a "Test sound") and passing to AN1/2, but as a call started — there is no sound from the participants of the call.

They hear me fine (I have managed the RME's Loopback approach), but I can't hear them.

The only workaround I have found is to install Rogue Amoeba Loopback, create a new virtual interface and pass through any sounds via this app to Fireface UFX III's Software playbacks input AN 1/2. Then Fireface UFX III works fine and I can hear the participants. See the attachment.

https://i.ibb.co/XkPpHZJ/Screenshot-2024-06-18-at-15-32-19.png

Despite Rogue Amoeba Loopback works almost fine, it costs $100 and is not so convenient in use on the regular basis.


  • I heard that there is a bug inside macOS: it fails to handle audio interfaces with so many inputs and outputs, especially in these calling apps like FaceTime.

  • Also I heard that the problem is with USB 3. Because when I connected my second RME device which is USB 2.0 — Babyface Pro FS, everything worked just fine from the start.

  • Also I heard that a probably workaround could be not to use DriverKit driver, but old-wayish KEXT driver instead. Is that true? Can anybody confirm that?

Dear RME team, could you confirm the bug and offer any workarounds or fix for that, please?

- Fireface UFX III + ARC USB + [Genelec 8331 + 7350]/[Genelec 8341 + 7360]
- ADI 2 DAC FS
- BFP FS

Re: Fireface UFX III + macOS + FaceTime/Google Meet: No Output sound

Please try the Kernel driver. https://rme-audio.de/downloads/driver_usb_mac_331.zip

You can also try LadioCast in combination with BlackHole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpibtzb72RI&t=62s

Regards,
Audio AG Support

3 (edited by borisovonline 2024-06-19 13:18:49)

Re: Fireface UFX III + macOS + FaceTime/Google Meet: No Output sound

Audio AG Support wrote:

Please try the Kernel driver. https://rme-audio.de/downloads/driver_usb_mac_331.zip

Yep, that helped. Everything works good now and I can hear the participants on Software Playback AN 1/2 output.

Thank you so much!

But why does that happens? Something wrong with DriverKit driver? Or something wrong on the Apple side?


BTW, 2 ALL:
The latency in Logic Pro 11 on 96kHz with buffer size of 64 Samples was:
- With DriverKit: 2,9 ms Roundtrip (1,5 ms Output)
- With Kernel Driver: 2,4 ms Roundtrip (1,2 ms Output)

Thus, the Kernel Driver is faster than DriverKit.

- Fireface UFX III + ARC USB + [Genelec 8331 + 7350]/[Genelec 8341 + 7360]
- ADI 2 DAC FS
- BFP FS

Re: Fireface UFX III + macOS + FaceTime/Google Meet: No Output sound

It's definitively on the Apple side. But why it doesn't work anymore may remain a mystery.
They are working on a new audio driver platform. Maybe that has something to do with it.

Regards,
Audio AG Support

Re: Fireface UFX III + macOS + FaceTime/Google Meet: No Output sound

Audio AG Support wrote:

It's definitively on the Apple side. But why it doesn't work anymore may remain a mystery.
They are working on a new audio driver platform. Maybe that has something to do with it.

Got it, thanks.

Waiting for.

- Fireface UFX III + ARC USB + [Genelec 8331 + 7350]/[Genelec 8341 + 7360]
- ADI 2 DAC FS
- BFP FS