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Topic: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

Foreword

Microsoft offers a Windows version for Arm CPU – that’s nothing new, although these having received not much attention, especially in the audio world. That changed in 2024, when Qualcomm’s latest Snapdragon X CPU in current Arm notebooks, together with Microsoft offering a well working emulation for native Windows apps, made these new notebooks really useable with standard Windows software.

Now audio is always a bit different, and emulation does not work for interface drivers. So one needs WDM and ASIO drivers that are compatible to Windows 11 Arm to be able to use pro audio interfaces (like ours wink ). It is our pleasure to announce exactly that – a MADIface and a USB series driver that works with x64 Intel computers as well as current Snapdragon X Arm notebooks running Windows 11.


Unrivaled Support

We tried our best to not give you a half-baken preview that misses a lot of stuff, but instead a finalized product where everything imaginable just works*. 100% compatibility, with the latest feature set of drivers and TotalMix FX. This is huge, because these drivers support ALL USB interfaces ever built by RME, back to the year 2009 (Fireface UC) - we’re talking about more than 27 different devices. Many of them are available used, so if you want to check out what Snapdragon-Arm can do for you the audio interface will not be in your way. Supported are:

USB series driver: Fireface UC / Babyface / Babyface Pro / UFX / UCX / UCX II / 802 / 802 FS

MADIface series driver: MADIface XT / XT II / USB / Pro, Fireface UFX+ / UFX II / UFX III, OctaMic XTC, ADI-2 Pro/AE/FS/DAC, ADI-2/4 Pro, Digiface USB / AVB / AES / Dante / Ravenna, DO USB.IO


* Note: These drivers include a lot of changes. While we really appreciate user feedback and reports, please DO NOT install them on critical production systems until the release version is up on our website!


The Details

The USB series driver 1.260 and the MADIface series driver 0.9849 are now 64 bit drivers, compiled with latest Microsoft tools and using latest Microsoft guidelines. They work on both Windows 11 Intel computers as well as Windows 11 Arm computers. Minimum requirement is Windows 10 (1709). While these drivers do not support 32 bit Windows as OS anymore, 32 bit apps can still be used on an x64 system (standard Windows compatibility).

Both WDM and ASIO are available. For Arm ASIO is included as 32 bit and 64 bit, both Arm64EC and Arm native.
The installer is completely reworked and now copies current files to C:\Program Files\RME\MADIface and C:\Program Files\RME\Fireface.

Changing between the former and these new drivers on Intel systems, back and forth, is easy and showed no issues in our testing.

As a bonus from the new installer a restart after initial installation is no longer necessary, and will also no longer be required for future updates. TotalMix FX and Settings dialog are immediately available in the notification area and are also updated instantly. A manual restart is necessary mostly when changing from the current drivers to the new combined x64/Arm ones.

To completely uninstall the driver start rmeinstaller.exe from the driver archive and choose Uninstall. Uninstall via Windows Apps (Add & Remove) is no longer supported.

There you have it – something to play with under the Christmas tree wink


Performance

A quick note on our Snapdragon performance experience so far: Some audio apps on Arm might require to set the power mode not to Best Performance, but Best Power Efficiency, to be able to use latencies below 1024 samples. This might be true only for low CPU apps, though, and needs further investigation, but in any case the driver has no influence on this. As an example, on current computers Reaper and Cubase need about 256 sample buffer size for a fully click-free operation.


Finally - The Downloads

MADIface series
https://www.rme-audio.de/downloads/driv … _09849.zip

USB series
https://www.rme-audio.de/downloads/driv … n_1260.zip

Now - have fun!

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

Absolutely amazing, much appreciation for your hard work on this! These types of developments really push platform adoption!

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Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

Fantastic!

Thank you for not only supporting Arm64 Windows with this release, but for doing so for both your in-market USB devices and your past devices. That's excellent for everyone.

Pete
Microsoft

Pete Brown
Engineer in Microsoft Windows
MIDI Association Executive Board Chair

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Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

I just tried my Fireface 802 with my Samsung X Elite laptop and managed 220 tracks wit Dom Sigalas's Cubase test at 128 samples, pretty damn impressive! Thank you RME!

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

That's Awesome Matthias,

Congrats to you and the whole team, again going above and beyond regards not only developing and releasing the drivers for Windows/arm so quickly, but also ensuring support for the USB interfaces for the last 15 years.

I have always told my clients that RME is a lifetime investment , and you prove it yet again.

I am sure this will generate some good momentum for the Windows users wanting a good mobile solution, looking forward to diving in.

Vin Curgiliano
AAVIM Technology
DAWbench.com

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

This is way cool! Congrats!

Does the team see this as a door to getting a version for Windows ARM (Parallels) running on Mac Silicon down the line?  There are a couple windows-only DAWs that would be great to be able to use on Mac hardware with a RME interface (like Pyramix, Sequoia, etc).

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Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

We don't see that and don't want to see (read support) that, sorry.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

Really cool! Looking forward to play with a new "toy" during Holidays smile

“Do It For Her”
My Gear: Bontempi Magic light Keyboard

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

RME is amazing!!!

Windows 11 / Nuendo 12 / UFX+ / M-1610 Pro / ADI-2 Pro FS R / Sonnet USB 3.0 PCIe

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

acp1009 wrote:

This is way cool! Congrats!

Does the team see this as a door to getting a version for Windows ARM (Parallels) running on Mac Silicon down the line?  There are a couple windows-only DAWs that would be great to be able to use on Mac hardware with a RME interface (like Pyramix, Sequoia, etc).

I totally understand that RME can’t support such experiments.

What I can say: after a first (quick n dirty) test:
seems to work fine on a M1 Sequoia, running Parallels as Host and a Win11 ARM64 as Guest.
Used a FF802 (the USB Series Installer) for this.

“Do It For Her”
My Gear: Bontempi Magic light Keyboard

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

Are ARM chips the future for Windows systems?
What is your assessment?

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

klaus-hahn wrote:

Are ARM chips the future for Windows systems?
What is your assessment?

My 2019 Intel CPU supports up to 1 TB of ECC RAM. When will the Snapdragon support at least 128 GB? Will it ever support ECC? So I don't see the "future" coming any time soon here.

Fireface UCX II + ARC USB > ADI-2 Pro FS R BE > Neumann KH 750 DSP + MA 1 > KH 120 A

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

wonderful news .Thanks MC and the team for once again proving why RME are still at the top of the Audio device tree after all these years.

It's not somethingk I'll use personally for a good while I think but I'm so happy to see this as i think Windows ARM has the potential to really challenge Mac Sillicone.

M

7950x-win 11|Macbook pro M1 Max-Sonoma| RME Raydat-Ferrofish| Sonnet TB

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

norburybrook wrote:

Mac Sillicone

This one?

Fireface UCX II + ARC USB > ADI-2 Pro FS R BE > Neumann KH 750 DSP + MA 1 > KH 120 A

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

klaus-hahn wrote:

Are ARM chips the future for Windows systems?
What is your assessment?

No. Maybe it will find its way to certain segment of gear, but trully ARM has no real advantage over x86. Even in consumption if the same node is used.)

Part of x86 apps will be ported to ARM and part never will be ported. And part of it even will not run on ARM. So, ARM will not replace x86 in foreseen future.

I personally do not see any reason go for ARM.

FF UCX II, Digiface USB, Babyface Pro FS

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

Fantastic! Thanks for the support. Much appreciated.

Babyface Pro FS | Intel i7-13700K 32GB RAM | Windows 11

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

Kubrak wrote:
klaus-hahn wrote:

Are ARM chips the future for Windows systems?
What is your assessment?

No. Maybe it will find its way to certain segment of gear, but trully ARM has no real advantage over x86. Even in consumption if the same node is used.)

Part of x86 apps will be ported to ARM and part never will be ported. And part of it even will not run on ARM. So, ARM will not replace x86 in foreseen future.

I personally do not see any reason go for ARM.

I don't, know my $1000 Samsung X Elite is considerably more powerful than my Macbook Max M1 and runs Windows (yay) quietly with a numeric keyboard!

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

maggie33 wrote:

What I can say: after a first (quick n dirty) test:
seems to work fine on a M1 Sequoia, running Parallels as Host and a Win11 ARM64 as Guest.
Used a FF802 (the USB Series Installer) for this.

Maybe an addition to my post:
I am really impressed about the performance, RME!
Especially because I use the unsupported win11 VM inside a Mac thing...
128 samples Buffersize - no noticable dropouts/glitches.
Cubase (x64 version), running inside Win11arm64 just plays 3 Tracks to 3 Playback channels on my old FF802.
What should I say? it feels like it would run directly on the host...

https://i.ibb.co/xjgZ9dQ/Win11-as-Guest-on-M1-Host.png

“Do It For Her”
My Gear: Bontempi Magic light Keyboard

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

I decided to give the new driver a spin after for some reason, the latest official driver would sometimes suddenly disconnect my Babyface Pro FS. The cable side on my laptop and interface are both tightly plugged in, I've checked.

Well, the new driver hasn't disconnected my Babyface in whatever way since I installed it 2 days ago. Also, I feel the over all stability of the driver has been much improved! I don't have an ARM machine, but if in the future I'm upgrading to an ARM PC, I won't worry because RME has got my back. Bravo!!!

Happy new year!!!

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Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

We are currently working on an update of both drivers, hopefully available soon, to remove some issues of this first Arm/x64 version:

- Changes/fixes in the installer: Settings dialog can be called from an ASIO DAW again. Installation program now also works under a user account.

New in TotalMix FX 1.98 x64:

- Eliminates crash when clicking on the playback button for channel selection (DURec)

- Channel status narrow in CRM is retained even if the CRM was minimized (CRM options not visible)

- HDSP9632 and HDSPe AIO: Check marks in the routing dialog now appear on all active channels

- HDSP9632 and HDSPe AIO: Switching off phones in the CRM (none) did not remove them from the CRM

Those last two are not relevant for USB devices, but someone might have both USB and HDSP/HDSPe in use. I'll announce their availability here.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

davidlaijiajun wrote:

I decided to give the new driver a spin after for some reason, the latest official driver would sometimes suddenly disconnect my Babyface Pro FS. The cable side on my laptop and interface are both tightly plugged in, I've checked.

Well, the new driver hasn't disconnected my Babyface in whatever way since I installed it 2 days ago. Also, I feel the over all stability of the driver has been much improved! I don't have an ARM machine,

Is the problem that the BF Pro disconnects gone? I have exact the same problem and tried 1001 hacks and improvements with no luck so far (cable, no power-saving for USB, CPU optimized not to go to sleep states and what-not). I have an "old" AKM Babyface Pro FS btw.

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Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

Driver 1.0 for the MADIface series and 1.270 for the USB series are now available on our website, including the fixes listed in post 20.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

MC wrote:

Driver 1.0 for the MADIface series and 1.270 for the USB series are now available on our website, including the fixes listed in post 20.

I tried to install the new v1.270 on my AMD Zen+ computer using the uninstaller via rmeinstaller.exe but the result is the previous v1.260, also TotalMix v1.98 does not install and remains v1.97.

Please, what should I do?

UCX II FW106/34/104 v1.270 TM1.98 - PC Win11 24H2 / Fedora WS 41 - Reaper 7.30

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Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

Download it again. The file was not updated for a few minutes...you must have downloaded then. rmeinstaller.exe must be dated  9 January.

And no need to uninstall...

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

MC wrote:

Download it again. The file was not updated for a few minutes...you must have downloaded then. rmeinstaller.exe must be dated  9 January.

And no need to uninstall...

Thanks MC, all right.

UCX II FW106/34/104 v1.270 TM1.98 - PC Win11 24H2 / Fedora WS 41 - Reaper 7.30

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Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

Don't forget to include the help file!

https://i.imgur.com/NUL7Tlp.png

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Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

Thanks, will be added.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Re: RME strikes again – Windows 11 Arm drivers for all RME USB interfaces

And it is. New versions are up.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME