Hi,

hab den Treiber grad installiert und er l?uft sehr gut bei mir (in Verbindung mit Cubase 5.1.1). Mir ist allerdings beim 3.012 schon aufgefallen, dass sowohl der Mixer als auch der Settings-Dialog nach dem Windows-Start ge?ffnet sind (Windows 7 x64). Das war beim 2.9992 nicht der Fall. Ist zwar kein Showstopper, aber ich fands vorher angenehmer :-). Kann man das evtl. irgendwo abstellen/?ndern? Hab nix gefunden...

Viele Gr??e
Jan

Hi!

I use mainly Sonar PE 8.5.3 (32 bit) in ASIO mode. This version works much better than the previous one but I have one issue that I could already reproduce:

- Open Sonar
- Open project
- Start playback.  => Works OK.
- Go to Audio Options
- Do nothing but press [OK].
- Start playback.  => Now sound is stuttering (like slow motorboating) and nothing but Close Sonar & Turn off/on Fireface 800 will heal it. If you only close Sonar and try playback with for example Winamp with ASIO plugin, it will not play anything. However, Sonar does not lose control - playback can be stopped anytime. Turning Audio engine off/on has no influence.

Another problem: entering Edit / Audio Hardware Setup in Audition 3 hangs Audition.exe.

My setup: Win 7 64 bit, i7 950, 6 GB, 2 x Fireface 800 2.77, buffer 256

Seems very good so far. With 3.012, and using wdm, I was loosing sound if samplerate > 44.1.
With 3.013, I tried 44.1, 48 & 96 and they all works fine.
Cheers,
rw

I uploaded version 3.014 without the second MIDI ports on the FF 800. Link see first post.

Sonar and AA problem not reproducible on our test machine.

Jan: das kan eigentlich nur passieren wenn Settings und TM im Autostart sind - da geh?ren sie aber nicht rein.

I also have the TM and settings dialogue opening on Windows startup.

I'm running Windows 7 x32

Where is it possible to download it?

BTW 3.014 control panel form is a little to small -> Store/Read flash buttons are clipped. (win XP)

There's one thing that I will like to fully understand around the win7 audio panel is the "supported formats" (Properties) for any of the digital outs of the ff400. Since 3.012, formats are listed one a time and mirror the FF settings sample rate selected.
So here (under 3.013), when 44.1 & 96 selected, the checkbox is unchecked, but when 48 selected, the checkbox is checked.
What is the behavior/purpose of that checkbox, having his state checked or uncheked?

rw

Hi,

It's needed for Fireface to show up in DigiCheck 5.2x
with the later FF drivers 3.xxx, if it's a beta I don't know MC will tell I think !

regards S-EH

Hi MC,
thanx for quick upload of 3.014...(midi port fix)

about the windows 7 firewire driver,it seems that we still need to use the LEGACY driver for  proper working
fireface under windows 7.(hope it will be fixed soon)

One more thing i have noticed that i think its an error too:

In sound settings control panel windows 7 (playback or recording), if press on one of the output or input pairs -properties-advanced tab-"select sample rate and bit depth", there is 1 -16 bit choice and,2- 24 bit choices that are the same.

should it be this way?

regards
sam

Yup the new constant error display in the setings dialog is great.
I have tried to get used to the new layout but still find it awkward having to tab between the pages to check on output level, 48v etc. Bring back the single settings page!

Thanks for all the feedback! Here are some comments/answers to your questions:

> installed driver,all looking good...(double icons in the taskbar from 3.012 fixed).
> I also have the TM and settings dialogue opening on Windows startup.

I think they are double-listed in the registry, so that Autorun happens twice (which will trigger the Window popup). We'll fix this.

> Is Digicheck v5.25 a beta

No. This is the release version with a few lines code added to detect the new Fireface driver.

> BTW 3.014 control panel form is a little to small -> Store/Read flash buttons are clipped. (win XP)

Can you please provide a screenshot?

> In sound settings control panel windows 7 (playback or recording), if press on one of the output or input pairs -properties-advanced tab-"select sample rate and bit depth", there is 1 -16 bit choice and,2- 24 bit choices that are the same.

No, they are not the same, and only one is working. MS just forgot to name them differently.

> There's one thing that I will like to fully understand around the win7 audio panel is the "supported formats" (Properties) for any of the digital outs of the ff400. Since 3.012, formats are listed one a time and mirror the FF settings sample rate selected. So here (under 3.013), when 44.1 & 96 selected, the checkbox is unchecked, but when 48 selected, the checkbox is checked. What is the behavior/purpose of that checkbox, having his state checked or uncheked?

The boxes are sometimes checked, sometimes not. We will have an eye on that one. But even if the box is unchecked it will work correctly, so don't worry.

Thanks.

Version 3.015 is now available for download:

Update, see below:
https://archiv.rme-audio.de/download/win_fire_3016.zip

Important: Version 3.012/13/14 had changed names for the autorun command of Settings and mixer. This usually results in a double entry and therefore double call and therefore opening of the Settings and Mixer window on boot.

To fix this:

- Geeks: start reg edit, search for 'FirefaceTray'. You will find it in CurrentVersion\Run. In the right window delete FirefaceTray1 and FirefaceTray2.

- The safe way: go to Control Panel \ Programs (Software) \ Remove and click on RME Fireface before(!) you install version 3.015.

3.015 fixes (hopefully):

- Removed double 24 bit entry in WDM device properties

- Changed names in inf file (caused Settings and Mixer window to be opened)

- Changed Store/Read button position (problem under XP)

It would be nice if there was an option for a SINGLE WINDOW with Full options,
So pros can have a quick single look & be done with it instead of all this Tabbing,
I have to say I hate it.

A simple way for me to reproduce this "motorboating" is to use the scrub tool in Sonar 8.5.3 x64 using ASIO.  I can get a couple seconds of normal playback and then it goes motorboating.

Hi MC

driver 3.015 installed.

all looking and working as it should here.
-Removed double 24 bit entry in WDM device properties- fix confirmed

ill report in if any other findings during work.

regards
sam

Splitting them across two pages isn't simpler, when there's plenty of space on one.  A small point, but valid I think.

Some people might scratch there head about your comments. For Fireface 400 users the only thing we moved from the front to the second page is the analog I/O levels. Hardly a problem that will need professional support or is 'hidden'. There has not been a single page before, the second page has (had) the faders for the four input gains.

So only the FF 800 users now get a second page for the analog settings, which IMHO are seldomly changed and therefore should be no problem to be there.

The new dialog is MUCH more easy to read, even for a long-time user that just wants to have a 'one glance overview'. Try to use it one week, then have a look at the old one again. You will notice how cluttered and confusing it was.

3.015 has been working with my i7  + Win7 64 bit + 2 x FF800 + Sonar 8.5.3 MUCH better than 2.992. Very promising.

However, sometimes Sonar still loses connection with ASIO driver (when playback is started, Sonar hangs completely for half minute, then playback starts but with no sound and it's not possible to stop playback. Only way to stop it is to turn power off from Firefaces.)

I have no clue if this is Sonar, RME driver or 64 bit Windows 7 related thing but this happened never in 32 bit XP + Sonar 8.5.3. Maybe it's the Microsoft's Firewire driver to blame but I hope RME solves problems with it.

Driver seems as good as the last on Windows 7 64bit.  Still crappy latency of 256 samples.  Ableton live fails to open the hardware control panel aswell.  Often leads to crashing of application.  I like the new interface however, things are a little easier to interpret.

All RME devices are disabled in Control Panel / Sounds / Playback & Recording.
But what is "Internal AUX Jack"?

Bug ?  It seems I can't get the settings to remember the front or rear status of input 1, unless I also change some other parameter (like 7/8 or speaker emulation for instance).

pot.

Did you disable those devices? Usually it is enough to make sure they are not assigned as Default device.

How to do that?

It tells you that there is a FireWire problem on your machine that no audio interface driver could ever resolve.

Will be checked.

I don't suppose I'm the only user who has only the Fireface installed, no other audio interface, and who occasionally needs to play media direct from the Desktop using the standard Windows utilities.   What should be enabled?