• Registered: 2010-05-04
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Topic: MIDI standalone not working

I have a problem getting an RME Fireface 400 to respond to MIDI control
data  in standalone mode.

I have updated to the latest drivers and firmware ( Mac ) and
everything works fine when connected to the computer - send the Flash
command, go to Fireface Settings and click on STORE,  disconnect/switch off. And Power up the Fireface which signals
Host Mode ok but the fader controls I have set up to control the 8
output faders do not work in Standalone mode.

I have routed the Matrix to connect the ADAT input ( 8channels ) direct
to the analogue outputs of the Fireface. I.e. input channels 11 through
18 to outputs 1 through 8 using MIDI controller numbers 102 through 109
on MIDI channel 9. This works fine but not in Stand Alone mode.

I have checked the basic MIDI control ( on page 86 of the manual ) to
control the input level of channel 11 ( ADAT 1 ) using CC7 on MIDI
channel
12 and this works fine in standalone mode but of course using CC7
commands only works for the first 4 ADAT input channels and I need to control all 8 ADAT channels

I also tried setting up 2 analogue inputs routed to analogue outputs 1 and 2 to see if it was an issue with routing of the optical inputs
I set up the correct MIDI controller number and channels to control both input channels 1 and 2 and output channels 1 and 2 which worked fine but again I could not control the input or output in standalone mode.

I hope that you can suggest a solution for this problem

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Re: MIDI standalone not working

First you have to flash the mixer state via TotalMix Options menu. Second what's not in the manual is not supported. You will need to use Mackie protocol to have access to the higher ADAT channels.

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Matthias Carstens
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3 Reply by marekbuk (edited by marekbuk 2010-05-07 17:02:05)

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Re: MIDI standalone not working

Thanks for the information - I have checked the user manual ( page 85 )  and it does not mention control of the ADAT channels in Standalone mode - only channel faders 1- 8 could you please tell me the Mackie Control codes to control the 8 x ADAT levels OR kindly point me in the right direction where I can find this information. I can program an Arduino board to send the correct data.

All I need to do is control the 8 analogue outputs with a programmable fader in Standalone mode - surely this should be possible?


Mackie Control Protocol
The stand-alone operation supports the following Mackie Control surface elements*:
*Tested with Behringer BCF2000 Firmware v1.07 in Mackie Control emulation for Steinberg mode.
Element: Meaning in Fireface:

Channel faders 1 ? 8 volume
SEL(1-8) + DYNAMICS reset fader to Unity Gain
V-Pots 1 ? 8 pan
pressing V-Pot knobs pan = center
CHANNEL LEFT or REWIND move one channel left
CHANNEL RIGHT or FAST FORWARD move one channel right
BANK LEFT or ARROW LEFT move eight channels left
BANK RIGHT or ARROW RIGHT move eight channels right
ARROW UP or Assignable1/PAGE+ move one row up
ARROW DOWN or Assignable2/PAGE- move one row down
EQ Master Mute
MUTE Ch. 1 ? 8 Mute
SELECT Ch. 1 ? 8 Select
REC Ch. 1 ? 8 select output bus (current submix)

  • Registered: 2010-06-22
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Re: MIDI standalone not working

there is the option of midi CC 07 to control channel input volumes
using different midi channels to target different inputs, using the same CC 07

however, i have tried this, have flashed the mixer state in case that helps

it isnt working.

if there is any other advice on how to get the CC07 input volume control happening,
please let me know,
as this is one of the reasons i purchased the RME gear.
(the other reason being outstanding audio quality and special anti-jitter technology)

regards

Supergeek

5 Reply by supergeek (edited by supergeek 2010-06-22 06:22:54)

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Re: MIDI standalone not working

edit:

i am using ableton to monitor the inputs, and control the volume levels that way,
everything seems to be cool and rme's super quality is sounding beautiful on a genelec tri sysem.

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Re: MIDI standalone not working

marekbuk wrote:

could you please tell me the Mackie Control codes to control the 8 x ADAT levels OR kindly point me in the right direction where I can find this information. I can program an Arduino board to send the correct data.

http://home.comcast.net/~robbowers11/MCMap.htm

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