Hi,

I've been looking to buy the Babyface Pro in Toronto, Canada and I've been told that Babyface Pro has been recalled because of a bracket machining issue and that the item might be available only in mid/late December.

I've seen this item for sale in US http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Nt … av-Search=

Are those ones OK to buy or better wait for the Toronto shipment?

Thank you for any info regarding this.

I just purchased the Babyface PRO and installed Totalmix. I use reaper, but this issue happened in Studio One as well. First off, all levels seem fine in total mix. On the totalmix side, it seems like there are no problems. Whenever I try to record, I get an error soon after starting. It records fine for anywhere from 5 seconds to 3 minutes, then I get an error "There was an error opening the audio hardware: Error getting ASIO channels"

Any ideas?

I am using reaper in windows 10. Latest firmware on the Babyface PRO and latest drivers off the website.

Is there concern about longevity if the BF Pro is always powered on? I think the problem started when I changed my settings to have my USB ports power down when the computer was off (Because my BF Pro was always on)

I just purchased the baby face pro, I'm very excited. But I have a few questions. I'm still new to Voice Over, but I spent timE and money on training and equipment. So far I have been very lucky and can afford to upgrade. My mic is quality, but my mixer was low grade. So I am updating my computer and switching to audio interface. I currently run a mic to pre amp to compressor limiter to sonic maximizer to mixer then labtop.

My question is should I run a chain to the BF Pro? Mic, pre amp, compressor, sonic maximizer to BF Pro?

I realize the BF Pro has all I need within the device and DAW provided, but I'm looking for the highest quality sound possible.

I'm only running vocals and I have high end clients, so I'm wondering if I plug the mic directly into BF Pro, then directly to labtop? Or can I use any of my existing equipment to produce a better sound than than the BF Pro by itself.

I have been using audacity, will I still need it when recording mp3 audio files for cluents? Or does the BF Pro DAW provide the same function?

Does the BF Pro work with adobe?

My local music shop just quoted me 6-8 weeks on the official RME power adapter for the BF Pro. Can someone post the Minimum and Maximum an adapter should be able to supply to work with the RME ?

The website I've pre-ordered Babyface Pro delayed the shipping date as 12-11-2015 so i guess this is a good thing because of getting a fixed version of a Babyface Pro if the first party was faulty (like the bracket machining and broken sound wheel things). I can wait a couple of days more for a flawless RME

Well, thanks for the update. I'm still waiting for my Babyface Pro (pre-ordered), when it arrives I will write my opinions here too.

Received my BFPro. Great piece of kit and set up some great routing for working with surround in Pro Tools (Adat to fold down out headphones and monitor outs) and mute buttons. Easy to be at the lowest sample settings too. My one question is about Dim. I'm surprised to see TotalMix has to be open for the dim light to work on the Babyface Pro. Is that correct? It seems to be the only hardware indicator that requires TotalMix to be running. If this is true, it'd be nice if a future firmware update changed this behaviour.

The other nice thing would be if you could set the button commands dependent on which input or output is selected. That could expand how many things could be setup. For instance I have global mute setup for A to do mute but it'd be nice if I could mute whatever output I have selected individually. Also more snapshot recalls could be setup (like when set to Adat out, B could toggle to a snapshot that removes the fold down)

I've tried the Dim function on multiple systems and I understand the assignments you mention, however the behaviour is consistent with no Dim light if Total Mix isn't running (and the correct output is set.)

On Windows 7 x64 and Windows 10, the dim light seems to function how you suggest. However that isn't actually true. If you close the TotalMix system tray icon (there by killing its services) by right click "Exit TotalMix" on the icon, the dim light will stop functioning. Not a big deal though because TotalMix auto runs in the tray on Windows on startup when the drivers are installed.

On Mac OS X 10.9.5 and 11, TotalMix does not start on startup by default installation. The Dim light does not work until TotalMix is started and if you close it, it stops working. I've since added TotalMix to start up on login hidden so the light works (among other things.)

Is this not the current expected behaviour (though strangely not mentioned in the manual)? You should be able to repeat my steps with the same results. I could even post video of this on both Windows and Mac.

Hi i want exact same quality output for 4 channel out.. djing/live situation.. why didnt you include 4 unemplified balanced output?
(that can be set as unballanced for live use)

it's always the same stupid story.. you company never study your client usage of your card..

seriously you have to stop this stupid one stereo out /headphone out .. you can use the same dac for headphone out but you need at least 4 mono output exactly the same (balanced\unbalanced)

it should be minimun 4 perfect dac line out and one perfect headphone amp and 4input with perfect preamp

also best is 16ch input/16output adat and madi in/out on same digital channel.. so one can use the card as both a djcard/live card and a center of a studio..

this should at similar price & similar size as current babyface pro.
i dont know on what planet you live..

you could take the world studios by storm with this kind of card if extremely stable and low latency..

I got my BabyFace Pro today (it was backordered) there's no button issue, nor sound wheel, everyting seems working well. I'm impressed by the headphone amp, even my low sounding AKG 240's sound huge with the volume level at half of the scale. The only negative thing is the low "maximum input levels" of the inputs and having to use the PAD for external preamps. This was the only reason I was going to buy an UA Apollo USB but it works only with windows or Mac so I ended up with another RME. I think it's the best option for this price.

Soundwise it's amazing, converting quality is definitely better than the old BabyFace if what I hear is not physiological. I can even hear all of the background noises in commercial tracks which my Focusrite even doesn't come close.

I know Matthias, it's an advantage to the old Babyface version which it did not have any Pad option. I just wanted to say that I wish without using a pad Babyface Pro had the capability of receiving the signals up to 20 dBu just like the UA Apollo Twin. And yes you are right it reduces the input level but I heard that using a PAD kills the transients. Anyways I'll do recordings with the PAD and without the PAD of the Babyface and my preamp's attenuator and will share my feedback here.

Thanks for your interest, this customer service is one of the main reasons I did stick with RME.

Good to know that, then again I feel that I made the right choice. Thanks for the valuable information Matthias.

Ahh too late. I have used a system restore point already because I needed to get back to work.  Maybe I can try it out this weekend.

Thank you.  I am returning the interface.  I tried to install it again and Windows wouldn't even start up in safe or normal mode.  I ended up having to do a system restore again to get windows loading again.  The system runs fine until the RME driver is installed.  Pretty odd.

That's normal for all Windows devices and how it should operate. When you tell it to safely disconnect, you're telling the Operating System to disengage with it and all processes. Until you re-initialize the device (unplug/replug) the computer has been told to ignore it. The more surprising thing is you aren't physically disconnecting the BFPro after you told the OS you were removing it. I don't think I can understand why you'd do this. But this is absolutely the way Windows devices are supposed to work.

DC power, MIDI breakout and ADAT on the side are IMO not a big deal because these connectors are the least frequently used ones, especially when being used as a portable audio interface. Plus, putting these on the front would be even more bizarre.

But I keep wondering if using TRS connectors instead of XLR for the outputs may have allowed enough room for the USB connector to go on the rear too. Also, I don't understand why XLR was chosen for the outputs: connectors are bulkier, heavier and more expensive than TRS, and force us to buy new cables because all previous RME audio interfaces used TRS.

Headphone outs and instrument ins on the side are IMO not great, in spite of what MC said, for the following reasons:

• If the headphone jack is on the side and you tug on it, it will slide out of the connector if enough pull is applied. However, if the connector is on the side, it will not slide out.

• Cables sticking out of the front are, in practice, not a big deal at all. I'd like to ask anyone here who owns a Fireface how often they control volume using the single knob. I own one and I've got it tucked away and basically forget it's there. Instead, I control volume from either Totalmix or using a third-party tool that maps the global volume keys on my keyboard to faders in Totalmix. This means my hand does NOT spend most of the time hovering above or near the audio interface, which apparently was the basis for the connector layout of the BF Pro, but on the mouse and keyboard. Therefore cables sticking out of the front would have more benefits than drawbacks, IMHO. What's really needed, as requested many times before, is for RME to allow mapping the master volume to global volume keys on the keyboard rather than relying on third-party MIDI work-arounds.
  

• Connectors front and rear result in neater cabling and are easier to access, especially on a device that's intended to be mobile i.e. to  be used in spaces where little space may be available.

I apologize if some of these design decisions also took into account PCB layout which, of course, we end users cannot see.

Some good points there. Still, TRS instead of XLR for the outputs would have been better even if they don't make full use of the available space, simply because that's what all other RME products use. Now I need different cables (or adapters) depending on which audio interface I'm using, which is not convenient.

Balanced inputs 3-4 would have been nice. Also microphone inputs that double as instrument inputs and balanced line inputs would have been great.

Why button labeled " A set" doesn't light when pressed??? all other buttons work correct.

Thank you very, very much!!! It work, All work perfect!!!

With my 5 years old blue babyface I get a decent SNR by setting the gain knob to 48-51 when working with my dynamic mics like the sm58 or AKG D5... in my babyface pro when I set the knob to that same level I'm not getting that much gain..so I need to set the gain knob to at least 54 but then hiss noise becomes pretty noticeable and somewhat annoying....why? I thought the AD converters of the BFP were less noisy...I don't get it...

please anyone using the BFP with dynamic mics with no issues at this levels? maybe am I missing something?...

My condensers mics work just as good as they do with my blue babyface. and the sound output works fine no issues at all.  But this issue makes my BFP practically unusable with my dynamic mics.

please someone who can give me a clue?..maybe I got a defective unit and being an early adopter is becoming an extreme sport? 

thanks

Alright..finally I figured it out....it looks like my BFP didn't like any of my XLR cables, I got a new one (cheaper!..go figure) AND also  purchased another gold USB cable. Only worked when changed those 2 variables.

Now everything is perfect, plays nice, crystal clear with my dynamic mics, ..even better than my blue babyface I would say. Looks like It was a combo problem of incompatible(??) XLR cables and a defective USB cable( I don't care about the cable, it was too short for my needs anyways ) so I'm fine with that, now I can get to work. thanks.

(PD: I wouldn't say my XLR cables are defective because they work fine with my other interfaces...weird.)