Yes, but differently than you think. Bit reduction - that's not the point. The music will not sound harsh or lose details or change its sound. But you loose 40 dB of signal to noise ratio. Now just try that - if you can't hear the noise without any signal playing back then this is a nice real world demonstration of why nobody needs more than 60 dB dynamic range for home speaker playback. Otherwise get yourself passive attenuators for the BF outputs so that your mornitors can be driven at around -20 dBFS.

Output jacks are male, you'll need cables with XLR F to whatever connection you have on your monitors (XLR M or TRS).

If you usually monitor at levels below -20 dBFS then your monitors are too sensitive and you should use passive attenuators. This will not only retain full SNR, but also prevent dangerous volume levels in case something goes wrong!

And did you look at the FX input level meter?

The file you provided does not match your former description. Are you talking about the 1 second low volume noise at the very end of the recording?

Then use a different reverb type and play with the parameters High Cut and Smooth.

There is no 'optimal' load. They take whatever they find. Give an example of what you want to attach and I might be able to give a more detailed answer. Apart from that the manual talks about that too.

Both headphones work perfectly on both outputs of the Babyface Pro. Technically the small TRS should be preferred as it gives a higher damping factor and therefore less THD, plus less frequency response error with phones below 60 Ohms. But these phones are both not critical, you could even use them at the same time, one at the small, one at the big TRS.

VmusicV> why do I need the TotalMix software
To control routing, to make proper mix for headphone and monitor

VmusicV> I have effects and everything else in my vst host
Reverbs easier to be set up via TM if singer requires it to feel more comfortably when singing.
You may use it but its not a must.

VmusicV> QUESTION - Why is there no 1/4" out?
You may use the 1/4" headphone out as line out.
Phones 3/4 have 2 output jacks for 2 different types of headphones.
So if you use phones 3/4 as line out and at the same time plug a headphone then the volume impacts both outputs.
If thats not wanted you may need to add a phone preamp or maybe get another interface with more flexibility (UC).

That's what it is, just a feeling...

I used to hate RME stuff, mainly because of the software. I mean, at least TWO pieces of software to run ONE interface? Come on! Get real!

That was when I got to work with an RME interface once in a while. I got utterly confused and resorted to hating. It couldn't be me, could it?

When I got an RME (by accident, really, as I have several other interfaces), I got stubborn and tried to understand the software, as the quality of the hardware was better than anything else I own. Only when I took time to study the software, I started to understand the paradigm.

Now, you'll have to pry the interface from my dying hands. It's all I use for recording and measurement. Nothing comes close. All the rest is gathering dust.

And, yes, the preferences app, the driver and TotalMix use up to 0,5% CPU (on my personal, dual core Mac), even when idling. That too seemed ridiculous in the past. But it doesn't get any higher when using it, so it's never a problem. And yes, when using VSTi's, every percent CPU counts. But I'm certain other parts of your system waste a lot more. And these parts aren't even necessary for audio, but you can't switch them off easily. In my case, it's my Mac talking to the cloud. I don't need, or want the cloud, but it's there. Most Windows users need to disable wireless, fi. Another kind of pita. These are far more annoying than RME's software. Yet we accept it without complaining.

When it comes to stability, I've had NO problems with RME. Admittedly, I've had NO problems with some other manufacturers too. But none come to the set of functions (Digicheck, fi) in that software.

So the balance is very positive in favor of RME.

Do I sound like a real fanboi? Maybe. But I've been in IT for over 30 years and there's simply no other audio hardware/software I would recommend with the same certitude.

And I would like to see "standard" outputs parallel to the headphone outs too. I'm that fanatic. But I haven't been able to find one reason to support my fanatic feeling. And that's supported by numerous measurements I've done. So I'm trying to cure my fanaticism

Love my new Babyface Pro so far. Really wish the option for a compressor is included in TotalMix FX though.

A 300 Ohm headphone will get the max level from the bigger TRS output, +13 dBu. The output power then is around 39 mW.

Route the input signal 3/4 to hardware output 1/2 and activate 'Loopback' in the hardware output settings panel. Route the software playback channels 1/2 to any other output to prevent feedback.

Thanks MC, I will give a try ASAP

@ianhind the BFP has only 4 analog output channels. 1 & 2 are at the back (XLR), 3&4 are L and R of the two headphone outputs.

For more analog outs, you would connect a D/A converter to the ADAT port. Then you can have up to 12 separate software outputs to analog signals.

Two questions on the Dim Setting:

1. there seem to be irregularities. Actually, I observed a behaviour like this:

being at level X (e.g. -20), pressing dim subtracts the dim amount (e.g. 20) from the current level (resulting in -40).
Changing the level then (e.g. down to -50) and pressing dim again, adds the dim amount (20) again (to -30).

But now, the BF somewhat returns the level after the second dim press back to where it was before (in my example to -20). No matter what changes it dit to the level when I was in dim mode. This could even lead to the absurd behaviour of reducing the level when disabling dim if I faded the level above where it was before the dimming while being in dim mode (being at -20, enabling dim → -40, fading to -10, pressing dim again to disable → -20).

How did I get there and why? am I erring and pressing dim actually has never been readding the dim-amount instead of returning to the level before dimming?

2. Am I forced to have Totalmix always running in order to use the dim feature? When I quit it, the unit doesn't react to the dim button and stays in the current state hmm

yes, unfortunately.

see https://www.forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopi … 22#p111922

I believe they made that decision because clips it's a mechanical part and can always brake down in the end. Anyway i don't really have a problem with it despite i preferring clips. Another the wheel seems a bit stiffer than the wheel on the original Babyface, should it be that way?

Does anyone know where i can buy the plastic black box the BFP came in if i ever going to loose it?

I haven't tested it with phantom power switched on yet. However the old Babyface's USB cable allowed you to connect to two USB ports (or a USB battery pack) for extra power. Can't do that with the new supplied cable.

But for normal day to day operational use there are no power issues. After many hours of use with both speakers and high impedance headphones. It's rock solid.

what does the trim wheel the inputs do when after pressing IN no input LED lights up? is it an empty selection? I cannot recognize any action.

I know, but pressing SELECT cycles through 4 states: left, right, both and nothing. but the "nothing" selection isn't documented.

thank you for your support-work Matthias!

I love my babyface one - it is getting old and I think about updating.
I have a few concerns though:

1. I loved the old main volume potentiometer - used it some years everyday - works still! Nice & heavy like a tank.
The new black one looks a bit cheap (I think you addressed that on the case - "it's just the look"?).
Actual question: Is the main volume pot. same quality as old? Is it solid aluminium? Why black? The dent is harder to see with matte black.
Also there is this strange issue of dissembled volume pot. in a non-damaged box in this thread, which wasn't answered?
And there are couple of users (mac & windows) with a serious bug with the "wheel" https://www.forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=22586
weren't answered properly. I mean ok, "send it back to dealer & get a new one", but that doesn't scream "rme quality" & inserts paranoia in the daily work.

2. I got also the "monitors too sensitive" issue. Adam A7x - a homestudio standard. I put volume of the speakers as close to infinity as possible.
It is not dented and hard to set equal on both speakers + still too loud - fader value -9.5 gets me around -20db
When the studio is quiet I hear the noise without signal going through.
It is my problem indeed not RME's, but a passive attenuator is not so easy to buy, really! The cheap ones around 100-200€ many users report problems and bad quality; the expensive ones include more then the pot starting being a interface themselves & cost way too much for this simple function.
Maybe RME can make a high quality passive atten. for 50-100€? Shouldn't be too hard. ;-) I think there might be a real niche.
[You know I don't buy top notch speakers & interface to put it all through a shitty passive attenuator....]

3. On my old baby the color of the "select" & "recall" words started to fade - can I expect the same with the new baby?

4. Not real issue, but a little strange: You stress the new, sturdy aluminium case - but the old one couldn't be any sturdier!?
I don't know which kind of metal the old one is (also aluminium?), but it could do a stunt-double in a Terminator movie.

All the improvements are great. I love it. My post deals only with my superficial "personal problems" with the new Baby.
Would be happy about an answer from you.

Hi all,

I'm a new owner of the Babyface Pro and I several questions about the instruments inputs.

My guitarist plays with a guitare which has an passive Seymour Duncan SH-8 pickups. This gear has an high level output. When I plug this guitare directly in the instrument input and with the babyface's gain knob to 0, there is already an high level in the totalmix. I try with the +4 db and the -10 dbv, but it's the same.

So, what is the best?  Decrease greatly the guitar's volume knob and then increase the gain? Decrease the guitar's volume knob until I have the level I wish without increase the gain? Or buy a direct box?

Thanks.

Hello everyone. I'm having an issue with the babyface pro and or the total mix software. When I have a musical track in any daw (protools, ableton, or fruityloops) and it is limited to exactly 0db no clip, the babyface pro clips and it also clips in the total mix software even though the output faders are at 0. My other interfaces show the 0db as exactly 0db without clipping as well as the old baby face but the new pro keeps showing the led's clipping with the output fader set to 0. Is anyone else having this issue? could this be a unit defect? Any and all help is appreciated.