Topic: Babyface Pro FS vs Babyface Pro - Sound quality

Is there any sound improvement in the updated Babyface Pro FS?

A friend is selling his BFP, but maybe I should still wait and buy an updated device.
I need maximum sound quality.

Or the sound quality remain exactly the same?

I'm especially interested in the headphones sound.

2 (edited by ramses 2019-12-19 20:26:39)

Re: Babyface Pro FS vs Babyface Pro - Sound quality

Or add ADI-2 DAC FS  / Pro FS to your setup if budget allows.

ADI-2 DAC FS comes now with updated AKM DA converter and new remote.

You can connect it digital via ADAT.

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub14

Re: Babyface Pro FS vs Babyface Pro - Sound quality

ramses wrote:

Or add ADI-2 DAC FS  / Pro FS to your setup if budget allows.

ADI-2 DAC FS comes now with updated AKM DA converter and new remote.

You can connect it digital via ADAT.

Yeah, I know, but I need a sound card too, not only DAC.
So what about my question?

Re: Babyface Pro FS vs Babyface Pro - Sound quality

Ah ok then I misunderstood,  thought that you have already one and think about upgrading.

Well converter quality these days is already quite high and it depends on several factors whether the one or other gives you an advantage. It depens on several factors:
- room treatment
- quality of other equipment like monitors, phones
- listening capabilities

The best advice that I can give to you is to try it out on your own.

Or simply look and decide whether one of the new features are important for you like ie selectable reference level.

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub14

5 (edited by David10 2019-12-19 23:40:01)

Re: Babyface Pro FS vs Babyface Pro - Sound quality

My question is:

Is there any sound quality improvement in the updated Babyface Pro FS relative to Babyface Pro?
Or the sound quality remain exactly the same?

I have Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO. Will Babyface Pro FS sound better? Or will Babyface Pro FS and Babyface Pro sound exactly the same in this headphones?

Re: Babyface Pro FS vs Babyface Pro - Sound quality

I understood your question.
But it's very subjective and you need to find this out yourself for the reasons that I mentioned (with your own ears and environment).

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub14

Re: Babyface Pro FS vs Babyface Pro - Sound quality

Unfortunately, I don't have the opportunity to compare personally, because I'll order from another country.
That's why I'm asking on the forum.
You mean they sound so different?

Re: Babyface Pro FS vs Babyface Pro - Sound quality

Perhaps Thomann Germany offers also 30d money back for your country. Simply ask.

The changes according to webpage go all into the direction of better quality (SNR, THD, ...) and by more power also more freedom in the selection of phones in terms of impedance.

IMHO all features together justify to go for the new device.

Improvements also on Mic inputs, less latency, the possibility to switch outputs to +4 dBu etc etc

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub14

Re: Babyface Pro FS vs Babyface Pro - Sound quality

Anybody of you did the Upgrade from the Babyface Pro to the Babyface Pro FS?

I bought my Pro two months before the release of the Fs, because I did not catch the news early enough...

Re: Babyface Pro FS vs Babyface Pro - Sound quality

how did you solve it?

Reaper, ADI-2 Pro FS, ME Geithain RL906, Mac mini M2
timeltd.me

Re: Babyface Pro FS vs Babyface Pro - Sound quality

AFAIK, biggest improvements are related mainly to input latency, lower THD and lower jitter.
The later 2 have some relationship with "sound quality", jitter @higher frequencies .Whether you (or a lot of people) could notice the difference is another story.
My experience is that using the best quality audio components starts to show on busy projects with lots of tracks, where small nuances start to add up into something audible. But, again it's just about your ears.