Quote: “the problem with the current muting method is that you can mute outputs unintentionally!”
The manual states “This way you cannot mute signals on all outputs unintentionally.”
So, the above statement contradicts a manual written by the manufacturers, experts regarding the operation of the product.
Compared to the average product manual produced by most manufacturers, the RME product manuals are veritable literary masterpieces. Bejewelled treasure mines of knowledge and helpful information.
Palpably, they are of little use unless they are carefully studied, understood, their guidance, adhered to. Quite simply, this apparent contradiction reveals a misapprehension of how to practically operate TotalMixFX, and I write that with complete and utter respect and the best wishes in the world.
Quote: “I have worked in broadcast and other areas, such as classical recordings.”
Quote: “The system I am more used to”
I’m wondering if that very fact is the largest part of the difficulty, you have clearly been frustrated by?
Working with consoles in broadcast situations, developing knowhow over time, naturally resulting in a personal, effective working methodology.
It is a common occurrence wherever unfamiliar products or new technologies are taken up by experienced individuals, that initial lack of adaptive flexibility, produces stumbling blocks and walls to be scaled.
There needs to be no embarrassment about this. It is an entirely normal state of affairs.
Imagine a legendary Formula 1 driver like Stirling Moss or Jim Clark facing the latest, technologically advanced Formula 1 car’s steering wheel.
A fresh learning curve altogether would be necessary, along with an eager willingness to flexibly adapt to a brand-new device, requiring an entirely new working methodology. (This even happens with Racing Tracks that are constantly evolving). We keep up, by constantly keeping up! So many stories involving development prototypes I could write about this.
With respect, my sense is it will be necessary to let go of well-established, effective routines you usually trust completely, whilst operating TotalMixFX. Altogether embracing and relying upon entirely new methods, of approaching certain, specific situations.
That, it’s simply a matter of adjusting to a presently unfamiliar product and embracing different methodologies wherever necessary.
Quote: “I think a fail safe muting system where mutes are local is so important.”
Quote: “The Mute groups operate – other than the global mute – exclusively for the current routing.”
The fact that mute groups operate exclusively for the current routing, makes them “local” to the routing selected.
It is “fail safe” if used as conceived, designed, produced and operated as instructed. That involves a small learning curve in how to operate it as intended, we all go through.
Quote: “they do it because it makes sense for 95% of situations.”
That was indeed, precisely my point.
Quod Erat Demonstrandum.
I think its worth contemplating that seemingly, unlike yourself, many users will not be particularly proficient technically from an engineering perspective.
Many people buy USB interfaces who are creatively, artistically or even musically inclined, so such products are designed, absolutely for professional use, but great attention has been given to making them work, as simply as possible.
In that respect TotalMixFX brilliantly solves that tremendous headache for the user deficient in engineering knowledge, routing! Anything can be routed anywhere, extremely easily, providing immense flexibility for the professional user and a simple method of implementing specific routing for the novice user. The more one uses it, the more one appreciates it to be truly a work of genius.
Quote: “it's not fair to say is because everyone else is wrong.”
Truthfully, I would never wish to be unfair.
That would be wholly against my personal ethical codes of life.
Scientific research has proven that even rats possess an inner code of moral ethics.
However, you raise an extremely interesting point. So, it’s worth contemplating that you "appear" to think it would be “fair” for RME to shoulder the further development cost and time involved in evolving a redesign of TotalMixFX.
Always assuming they had the resources to do so, which in all probability from everything I can tell and what Mr Carstens has stated, they obviously don’t.
So that 5% of users (your figure, which seems grossly overestimated), can have a feature that 95% of users (your figure) have no interest in whatever.
Who will pay for the costs involved in that development, bringing higher prices for consumers, paying for unneeded features?
To my mind, that would not be fair! Most especially so, because such further development is not required.
Quote: “I totally accept that I could be missing something important here, maybe I just don't get how this mixer is intended to be used”
You have successfully summed up the situation extremely well.
The good news is that RME as manufacturers and the RME family of users are ready to help. It seems we all need such help.
I read every word of the Instruction manuals through completely. Watched all the tutorials but still needed to contact the distributor for advice a couple of times with questions.
The reason I follow this forum, is because there is always something further to learn, and the members here are extremely knowledgeable regarding RME products and genuinely want to be helpful to other users. They are altogether a wonderful bunch! Mr. Carstens in particular!
I sincerely wish you well, in all your further endeavours and recording opportunities.