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Dear music friends. I have a big problem with RME TotalMix FX.
I can't find a way to find the solution to find where is the + 48Volts button, or Phantom Power, to use the microphone.
I tried all the possibilities - but also the RME videos - nowhere does this write!
Thank you very much, in advance for the help received.
P.S.
Unfortunately I do-nt know how to post a photo;;;;;.
> I can't find a way to find the solution to find where is the + 48Volts button, or Phantom Power, to use the microphone.
The 9652 is a digital card, none of it's digital ports (ADAT, SPDIF) have something like a preamp.
But you can connect e.g. an 8 port Mic preamp through ADAT.
For all those preamps you have to control gain, phantom power etc on that particular preamp.
With one exception: RME Octamic XTC !
Should you have the budget to get an Octamic XTC, then you can remote control it as Auxdevice through MIDI.
In this case this RME preamp integrates into TM FX like a channelstrip and then you can remote control the most important preamp settings like e.g. gain, phantom power, pad and save/restore them in TM FX snapshots.
Thats the most elegant way to work with the card.
> Unfortunately I do-nt know how to post a photo
https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/ind … rum-EN-DE/
@Ramses Dear RAMSES
Thank you sincerely and from the bottom of my heart both for your prompt response, but also for the very friendly and extremely explicit explanations!
Indeed, I have already make my own recording with Baby face (I am a loyal fan of the RME company .. !!) and there were switches for Microphone + 48 and An1 Instrument ... !! So now when I did new recording on PC and RME-HDSP 52 I was expecting to see the Microphone + 48 and An1 -buttons..., (according to what you reported- is impossible!). So RME was clever in this case-for me to buy an audio-converter interface to have switch Phantom Power + 48 db!
So,I already have a digital AD / DA Behringer Ultragain interface that has the Phantom Power + 48 db switch function! So I can still use it - and forget the Phantom Power + 48 db switch function from RME-TMix!Correct?
Thank you sincerely for the unexpected help!
Kind regards from Amsterdam / Niederlanden
You can connect the Behringer ADA8200 Ultragain via ADAT to the HDSP 9652.
Use the following cabling
9652 -- ADAT OUT -----------------------> ADAT IN -- ADA 8200 (also needed for clock synchronization)
9652 -- ADAT IN <----------------------- ADAT OUT -- ADA 8200
Setup
- 9652 as "clock master" (in RME settings dialog, set clock source to "internal")
- ADA8200 as "clock slave" (configure the device to get clock from ADAT)
TOSLINK cable can be up to 10m long according to standard.
As TOSLINK cable I can recommend MUTEC, not to thick/stiff and good connectors that sit well, not too tight.
https://www.thomann.de/de/mutec_optisches_kabel_1m.htm
Good luck !
Dear RAMSES
By chance I accessed ADAT Settings and browsing the Menu at the DEVICE Box, where I can choose 2 solutions
1.) None
2.) Octamic XTC
I clicked on Octamic XTC and .... the + 48v and Pad buttons appeared !!
I pressed the buttons, the lights come on but + 48v The volume does not react - that is, the microphone volume does not increase ....
Anyway, thank you once again for the special kindness you had to explain and help me!
I also appreciate the last post where it can be seen YOUR "deutsche Gründlichkeit" !Great!
By the way this is a great link..https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/
Kind regards from Amsterdam
When enabling Auxdevice you might see those buttons, but it won't work.
It's only possible with Octamic XTC.
Two ways
a) via MIDI cabling (needed if you have a recording interface with ADAT)
b) via MADI, if you use a recording interface with MADI port (64ch @single speed).
Most elegant way is to use MADI.
RME introduced "MIDI over MADI", which uses some unused bits of the MADI protocol to transfer MIDI commands.
Then you do not need MIDI cabling for remote controlling the XTC everythig (Audio and MIDI) goes through this wire.
MADI offers 64ch @single speed, 32ch @double speed.
You can chain devices in a serial fashion.
You should use optical fiber cable (OM3 or OM4) which is also good for galvanic isolation.
The cable may be up to 2km long (!) between each of the devices on a MADI bus.
Example:
UFX+---OM3--->XTC1---OM3--->XTC2 .... ---OM3--->XTC8
+<-----------------------OM3---------------------------------+
This solution is very scaleable.
Up to 8 XTC may be chained on one MADI bus and the very long cable length that are supported make it possible to bring such an XTC into every recording room that you may have. Regard MADI cable as kind of multicore cable. But its at the end of the day a simple fiber cable which is also being used for computer networks.
The nice thing is that RME's MADI features can even provide delay compensation, so that audio from all XTCs arrive sample exact at the recording interface / in your DAW. Additional features of MADI delay compensation are to automatically assign the XTCs a MADI ID (1..8) and performs an automatic mapping/routing of MADI channels to each of the connected XTC's.
Delay compensation is only posisble with the Octamic XTC and its 8-port schema.
Once 12Mic will get Auxdevice support then it will have everything but delay compensation and those MADI features Auto-ID and Auto-CA (channel assignment).
Very nice setups are for the start UFX+ and one Octamic XTC. Alternatively UFX+ and 12Mic.
See the following articles in my Blog on tonstudio-forum.de:
About combination of UFX+ and Octamic XTC using MADI:
https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/ind … Cber-MADI/
UFX+ and 12Mic
https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/ind … XTC-DE-EN/
Evolution of my recording setup:
https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/ind … -DURec-DE/
Information about the flagship interface UFX+:
https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/ind … 8-RME-UFX/
Also interesting, the combination of UFX+ and ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, see here:
Overview about the models, capabilities: https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/ind … ses-EN-DE/
How to integrate this into your setup:
https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/ind … our-Setup/
IMHO ideal setup, to give you an overview:
PC---- USB--- ARC USB (remote control for TM FX control room)
|
| (USB3 or Thunderbolt)
|
+--->UFX+-------AES-------> ADI-2 Pro FS R BE ------> Monitor / Phones
| |
| +---->-----MADI------> Octamic XTC1..8-----+
| |
+------------<-----MADI----------------------------------+
Alternatively you can use the 12Mic instead which supports MADI and AVB networks.
But as I said no Auxdevice control yet, you will manage the device through your LAN with a browser.
Alternatively through a separate application.
Delay compensation is not possible, but by the 12ports you will connect only 1-3 devices anyway to the MADI bus and for this reason delay compensation is not really required in contrast to serial chaining up to 8 XTC on a MADI bus.
This is the "big picture" how nice a MADI based setup can be.
I wrote you this so that you have an overview and can better decide, whether you want / need such features.
My setup is currently this: https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/index.ph … Setup-jpg/
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