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Topic: DAW Mode, Fireface UCX II, set it from the device ?

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The followind dafault behaviour for switching between DAW mode and Full Mode is very inconvenient:

1. TotalMIX on the Computer to which the device was connected is in DAW Mode.
2. Switch  off the Computer and the device.
3. If later only the device is switched on again, the stand-alone usage is not possible.
No sound. No possibility to switch the device to "Full Mode" on the device itself.

You have to swicht on the computer, connect the device to the computer, switch TotalMIX to Full Mode.
Then if you switch off the computer, the device can be used as stand-alone, without computer.

So it would be very useful, if also the device itself (not only TotalMIX ) has a setting for switching between "Daw Mode" and "Full Mode"
I could not find such a setting on teh device ?

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Re: DAW Mode, Fireface UCX II, set it from the device ?

Do you need to run in DAW mode. I originally thought it would be the best option but found TotalMix in full mode is better while working in a DAW and gives more flexibility. I know it does help if you want to keep using DAW mode but most people have found full mode once mastered is better all round.

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Re: DAW Mode, Fireface UCX II, set it from the device ?

mugiaddress wrote:

1. TotalMIX on the Computer to which the device was connected is in DAW Mode.
2. Switch  off the Computer and the device.
3. If later only the device is switched on again, the stand-alone usage is not possible.
No sound. No possibility to switch the device to "Full Mode" on the device itself.

The unit is fully configurable via the display, no matter what state it had before. This includes routing, mixing, monitor levels (button CHAN/MIX).

It might help your use case to save mix states into the UCX II (via TotalMix, up to 6 user Setups), then reload these via SETUP/REV - Options - Load all Settings when in stand-alone mode. Or use the other options AD/DA, Factory, Clear Mix (which IMHO you haven't discovered yet).

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Re: DAW Mode, Fireface UCX II, set it from the device ?

>>The unit is fully configurable via the display
BUT NOT the switching between DAW and FULL mode, this switching can not be done on the Unit.


>>save mix states into the UCX II
Does not work. DAW and FULL mode is not saved in the Mix states.

So Please RME, before writing, read carefully the question and think !

the question/problem once again is:

How to use the unit as STAND ALONE (without computer), if previously, it had been used with a computer (with TotalMix) in DAW mode ?

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Re: DAW Mode, Fireface UCX II, set it from the device ?

DAW mode is for Totalmix on your PC, not for the unit itself. There are no different modes for the hardware. What exactly doesn't work as expected?

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Re: DAW Mode, Fireface UCX II, set it from the device ?

mugiaddress wrote:

>>The unit is fully configurable via the display
BUT NOT the switching between DAW and FULL mode, this switching can not be done on the Unit.

Of course not - because that doesn't exist in the hardware at all. The hardware is always in Full mode, if at all, because the whole mixer can be controlled from the display.

mugiaddress wrote:

>>save mix states into the UCX II
Does not work. DAW and FULL mode is not saved in the Mix states.

I did not say so. Again: you use the option 'Store current state into device', obviously in FULL mode where you have set any I/O routing that you need later in stand-alone mode, into the unit. And load it later in stand-alone mode direct at the unit. That works. No matter if you used FULL or DAW mode before switching the unit off.

mugiaddress wrote:

the question/problem once again is:
How to use the unit as STAND ALONE (without computer), if previously, it had been used with a computer (with TotalMix) in DAW mode ?

The manual further explains how to use the unit in stand-alone mode, chapter 23.

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Re: DAW Mode, Fireface UCX II, set it from the device ?

once again:

1. TotalMIX on the Computer to which the device is connected is in DAW Mode.
2. Switch off the Computer and the device.
3. Later, switch on only the device and try to use it in stand-alone mode.
4. It is not possible. No output sound.

In order enable the device to work stand-alone, you have to first:

5. Swicht on the computer, connect the device to the computer, switch TotalMIX to Full Mode.

Then if you switch off the computer, the device can be used as stand-alone, without computer.

So obviously the device remembers the state of TotalMIX (DAW or FULL mode) from the time it was connected to a computer.
And when the device is used without a computer (stand-alone), it works only if the previous mode of TotalMIX was FULL mode.

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Re: DAW Mode, Fireface UCX II, set it from the device ?

No. It does not remember DAW or FULL. It remembers all currently active routings. In DAW mode there (obviously) is no in to out routing. When you changed to DAW mode you got a warning message that all routings will be deleted. This is especially in to out as needed in stand-alone mode. So no surprises there.

And again: You can store setups in Full mode and load them later in stand-alone mode, or route everything manually as you need it (more cumbersome, but easy via CHAN/MIX button). It seems you never tried the MIX function at the unit, in stand-alone mode.

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Re: DAW Mode, Fireface UCX II, set it from the device ?

Thanks, now it became clear.
The misunderstanding comes from the fact that, when a  device is connected to a computer, its local Setups are not usable/accesible. More intuitive would be (at least I thought so) that when a device is connected to a computer and a Setup is Loaded and Started on the Device, then this Setup would be also transfered to TotalMix (after e message box for example) and activated there.

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Re: DAW Mode, Fireface UCX II, set it from the device ?

The Setups stored in the unit do not include the playback row, so are incomplete for computer usage.

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