Topic: Any news on RME DPS-2

It's way pass its release date, has DPS-2 been cancelled?
And if it's not, what's the release window and MSRP?

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Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

I am currently checking the final sample. It's much delayed, unfortunately, but has become even better with specs and extra features.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

MC wrote:

I am currently checking the final sample. It's much delayed, unfortunately, but has become even better with specs and extra features.

Oh cool, any word on price?

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

I am picking up my ADI-2/4 Pro SE tomorrow, and I am REALLY excited about this PSU!

Any news on when we can expect any news? big_smile haha

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

I would like an update on it as well...

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Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

The DPS-2 should be presented and start shipping at the Munich Hi-End show. Together with the other two power supplies, the LNI-2 PS and LNI-2 DC. Details will be released then.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

MC wrote:

The DPS-2 should be presented and start shipping at the Munich Hi-End show. Together with the other two power supplies, the LNI-2 PS and LNI-2 DC. Details will be released then.

Thanks MC, I'm looking forward to it!

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

MC wrote:

I am currently checking the final sample. It's much delayed, unfortunately, but has become even better with specs and extra features.

Maybe:
Standby operation only with the switched-mode power supply due to Directive (EC) No 278/2009.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content … 32009R0278

Automatic switching on of the linear power supply unit (transformer) via the load request. The current mains voltage (115 or 230 volts AC) is automatically taken into account (bistable relay).

Housing as for ADI-2/4 PRO SE, so that extensions (battery, ...) can be installed later.


Like probably others, I am surprised that RME now wants to build a DPS-2 power supply in series:

" ... Therefore the ADI-2 ... achieves its technical specs even with less optimal power supplies. Or in other words: the choice of power supply is not critical."
User’s Guide ADI-2 DAC v3.1, page 10
User’s Guide ADI-2 Pro FS R - v 3.7, page 11
User’s Guide ADI-2/4 Pro SE - v 1.2, page 11

MC
2018-06-14 05:16:34
Re: iFi Audio Accessory iPower 12V/1.8A
...
"Technically the only improvement you could get is through perfect galvanic isolation to prevent AC leakage currents, a typical side-effect of switching power supplies. A linear one will not show that phenomenom. BUT the effect (if it shows up at all, simple grounding already removes it completely) is nothing more than a low level hum at around -130 dB. Not audible, and not causing mysterious jitter effects or similar which could change the 'sound' as such."
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 18#p131918

amirm
Jun 2, 2019
Review and Measurements of the HDPlex 200W Supply
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/foru … pply.7713/

If someone uses the ADI-2 DAC / PRO only for listening and is not able, for example, to determine whether the SPDIF cable is good or bad, they don't need the DPS-2.
If someone uses the ADI-2 DAC / PRO - especially the ADI-2/4 PRO SE in RIAA mode - for measuring, DPS-2 probably has advantages in the area of background noise.

RME should promote a DSP-2 only for measurement use, so that some people don't remember the negative business model of e.g. CYRUS (PSX-R, PSU-XR) ... Of course, RME will not be able to exclude that there are some people who buy a DSP-2 for better listening.

Interesting spectral analyses of the output voltages of a power supply unit at +12 V, 1 A top or +12 V, 0.1 A bottom (errors in the text, but diagrams are correctly labelled) in comparison with the spectral analyses of the DSP-2 soon to be presented.
https://funk-tonstudiotechnik.de/PWS-08 … ch-600.pdf

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

weme wrote:
MC wrote:

I am currently checking the final sample. It's much delayed, unfortunately, but has become even better with specs and extra features.

Maybe:
Standby operation only with the switched-mode power supply due to Directive (EC) No 278/2009.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content … 32009R0278

Automatic switching on of the linear power supply unit (transformer) via the load request. The current mains voltage (115 or 230 volts AC) is automatically taken into account (bistable relay).

Housing as for ADI-2/4 PRO SE, so that extensions (battery, ...) can be installed later.


Like probably others, I am surprised that RME now wants to build a DPS-2 power supply in series:

" ... Therefore the ADI-2 ... achieves its technical specs even with less optimal power supplies. Or in other words: the choice of power supply is not critical."
User’s Guide ADI-2 DAC v3.1, page 10
User’s Guide ADI-2 Pro FS R - v 3.7, page 11
User’s Guide ADI-2/4 Pro SE - v 1.2, page 11

MC
2018-06-14 05:16:34
Re: iFi Audio Accessory iPower 12V/1.8A
...
"Technically the only improvement you could get is through perfect galvanic isolation to prevent AC leakage currents, a typical side-effect of switching power supplies. A linear one will not show that phenomenom. BUT the effect (if it shows up at all, simple grounding already removes it completely) is nothing more than a low level hum at around -130 dB. Not audible, and not causing mysterious jitter effects or similar which could change the 'sound' as such."
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 18#p131918

amirm
Jun 2, 2019
Review and Measurements of the HDPlex 200W Supply
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/foru … pply.7713/

If someone uses the ADI-2 DAC / PRO only for listening and is not able, for example, to determine whether the SPDIF cable is good or bad, they don't need the DPS-2.
If someone uses the ADI-2 DAC / PRO - especially the ADI-2/4 PRO SE in RIAA mode - for measuring, DPS-2 probably has advantages in the area of background noise.

RME should promote a DSP-2 only for measurement use, so that some people don't remember the negative business model of e.g. CYRUS (PSX-R, PSU-XR) ... Of course, RME will not be able to exclude that there are some people who buy a DSP-2 for better listening.

Interesting spectral analyses of the output voltages of a power supply unit at +12 V, 1 A top or +12 V, 0.1 A bottom (errors in the text, but diagrams are correctly labelled) in comparison with the spectral analyses of the DSP-2 soon to be presented.
https://funk-tonstudiotechnik.de/PWS-08 … ch-600.pdf

I'm going to maybe (depending on the price) get rme psu or fiio pl50 because my original psu got damaged in transport (the case has an crack in it), it still works and measures like stock though, I'm just not comfortable to continue using it.

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

MC wrote:

The DPS-2 should be presented and start shipping at the Munich Hi-End show. Together with the other two power supplies, the LNI-2 PS and LNI-2 DC. Details will be released then.

Nice, thank you! smile

See you at Munich then. wink

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

It's probably too late to say this, but if any of your PSUs could provide 5v dc to power pi2aes alongside the rme dac that would be awesome.

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

Will the DPS-2 (or the LNI) power supplies be compatible with the ADI 2 Dac FS (sounds like the DPS might be?), and could you expect any improvement in sound quality from using them?

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Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

The PS can be used with any of our units. And no, there is no difference in sound.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

Why should one add then this box to the system?

ADI-2 Pro FS R BE

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

Also curious about that PSU. I wanted to get another PSU but as soon as I heard RME is releasing one, I'm now waiting for it.
Hoping for sound improvements though in the DSD domain especially, since there is still some "edge" to the sound.

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

Pervasive_Silicon wrote:

Why should one add then this box to the system?

Cause some people will hear a difference big_smile

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

MC wrote:

The PS can be used with any of our units. And no, there is no difference in sound.

I don't really understand the purpose of these PSUs, then...but I very much admire your honesty smile

Surface PC, Node streamer, RME ADI 2 FS, Megatron tube amp, Stax x9000s, basic cables

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

Aspirant Audiophile wrote:
MC wrote:

The PS can be used with any of our units. And no, there is no difference in sound.

I don't really understand the purpose of these PSUs, then...but I very much admire your honesty smile

reparability, and reliability pretty much, switch mode psu's performance gets worse as the caps in them age and they aren't very reparable since you have to destroy the case to open them, those psus can also be used with non rme products where they might make a difference.

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

MC wrote:

The DPS-2 should be presented and start shipping at the Munich Hi-End show. Together with the other two power supplies, the LNI-2 PS and LNI-2 DC. Details will be released then.

Munich high end is over; any updates on the topic?

Re: Any news on RME DPS-2

Radio silence...