Topic: YouTube

How to listen to a You Tube track via my RME ADI 2 DAC FS

LINN AKURATE DS, LINN UNIDISC SC,AMPLIS MCINTOSH C300 et MC7106 + RME

Re: YouTube

Connect the device you are listening to YouTube on to your ADI 2. Without knowing which device you are using, it's difficult to give more concrete information.

I watch YouTube  on a desktop PC which is connected to my RME device via USB. My studio monitors and headphones are also connected to the RME. It's as easy as setting the Source to USB, pressing play, and adjusting the volume.

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Re: YouTube

I connected my pc via a USB cable to the RME
the sound of VLC plays well on the RME but neither YouTube nor Netflix have any sound?

LINN AKURATE DS, LINN UNIDISC SC,AMPLIS MCINTOSH C300 et MC7106 + RME

4 (edited by Sebastian.Athea 2023-04-03 04:58:51)

Re: YouTube

A lot to unpack here, if you're using your rme dac for media consumption and you don't need asio or dsd I'll recommend putting the dac into UAC2 mode, (In Device Manager select the ADI-2 DAC under Sound, Video
and Game Controllers, right click and choose Uninstall. In the next dialog make sure to check
'Delete the driver software for this device' confirm, and restart your machine.), you'll know if the dac is in uac2 mode if the rme icon isn't present in notification area. next right click on speaker icon and select "sounds", click on playback tab, right click on rme and enable both "set as default device" and "set as default communication device" and hit apply but don't close the dialog box yet, right click on the rme again and select properties, click on spatial sound tab and make sure it's turned off, next click on advanced, under default format set it to 32bit 48000hz, and enable everything in exclusive mode section, next go to levels tab and set it to 100% for the best quality.
To get the most out of your dac set filter to either sharp or slow, sharp will work better in most cases, (slow can fix resonant ringing issues with some speakers and headphones that have metal drivers (like Focal Elear etc...))
Next set up bit perfect playback via WASAPI, you'll need a player that supports it, MPC BE is a good choice for audio and video playback, open options box and go to audio, under audio section set default renderer to "0. mpc audio renderer" click to properties, under the sound device select RME, set wasapi mode to exclusive, set wasapi method to event, set buffer to default, and enable the following settings -allow bit exact output -use system layout -alternative check for supported format -release device when idle. turn everything else off. next go to sound processing and enable "down mix to" and select "stereo", enable int 16, 24, and 32. Disable everything else.
I recommend checking if your chain is operating in bit perfect mode (manual section 31.14, page 67)

Re: YouTube

Oh and you should set the volume in players to 100%, especially in MPC otherwise you won't have bit perfect playback and bit test will fail

Re: YouTube

Don't bother - the compression is too high.

Use other services and do your DAC justice.

Re: YouTube

mediummanting wrote:

Don't bother - the compression is too high.

Use other services and do your DAC justice.

I assumed they needed player to play locally stored files, preferably lossless. speaking about that if you want pure audio player and don't mind tinkering check out xmplay, it's pretty powerful, it can play every format under the sun, it also supports a bunch of synthesizer formats, trackers, and midi.

Re: YouTube

Latest YT audio streaming with Opus 251 codec (i.e. nearly all new YT vids of the last few years, check 'Stats For Nerds') can sound incredibly good, nothing shameful about using a great DAC to hear it even better!

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Re: YouTube

Babaluma wrote:

Latest YT audio streaming with Opus 251 codec (i.e. nearly all new YT vids of the last few years, check 'Stats For Nerds') can sound incredibly good, nothing shameful about using a great DAC to hear it even better!

It depends on the video, and it can still take more that two days for Opus 251 processing to finish and it getting available for the video, meanwhile you'll be stuck with aac 120kbit. which is very unfortunate if you're mainly watching new videos made by smaller creators.

Re: YouTube

Thank you, everything works fine

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Re: YouTube

Babaluma wrote:

Latest YT audio streaming with Opus 251 codec (i.e. nearly all new YT vids of the last few years, check 'Stats For Nerds') can sound incredibly good, nothing shameful about using a great DAC to hear it even better!

Opus 251 is max 160kbps.

https://gist.github.com/AgentOak/34d47c … 4c04a0096f

YouTube audio seldom sounds good to me. Lossy reencodes of (invariably) lossy reencodes. No thanks.

12 (edited by Babaluma 2023-04-03 19:46:51)

Re: YouTube

It's the best perceptual encoder we have right now, so I beg to differ, it can sound really good. I say this as someone mastering tracks at 24/96 all day every day on ATCs. Is it as good? No. Can it sound great? Yes, IMO. Check some of these:

https://www.youtube.com/@onemic-theminimalist/videos

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Re: YouTube

mediummanting wrote:
Babaluma wrote:

Latest YT audio streaming with Opus 251 codec (i.e. nearly all new YT vids of the last few years, check 'Stats For Nerds') can sound incredibly good, nothing shameful about using a great DAC to hear it even better!

Opus 251 is max 160kbps.

https://gist.github.com/AgentOak/34d47c … 4c04a0096f

YouTube audio seldom sounds good to me. Lossy reencodes of (invariably) lossy reencodes. No thanks.

I second this, even 320kbit mp3 sounds better than youtube, let alone proper lossless format, not to mention that youtube poorly down samples 48khz audio (which is default for most video editors) to 44.2

14 (edited by KaiS 2023-04-05 06:59:09)

Re: YouTube

Sebastian.Athea wrote:
mediummanting wrote:
Babaluma wrote:

Latest YT audio streaming with Opus 251 codec (i.e. nearly all new YT vids of the last few years, check 'Stats For Nerds') can sound incredibly good, nothing shameful about using a great DAC to hear it even better!

Opus 251 is max 160kbps.

https://gist.github.com/AgentOak/34d47c … 4c04a0096f

YouTube audio seldom sounds good to me. Lossy reencodes of (invariably) lossy reencodes. No thanks.

I second this, even 320kbit mp3 sounds better than youtube, let alone proper lossless format, not to mention that youtube poorly down samples 48khz audio (which is default for most video editors) to 44.2

I have a very mixed picture on the Youtube sound.

My best guess is, it largely depends on the quality people do when recording and upload stuff, not too much on what happens inside YouTube.

There are artist that recorded at my studio, when I hear the result on YouTube I have nothing to complain about.

Re: YouTube

KaiS wrote:

My best guess is, it largely depends on the quality people do when recording and upload stuff, not too much on what happens inside YouTube.

If people upload videos with the audio part already encoded at 128k or so, things aren't going to get better once online...

Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME

Re: YouTube

I have an ADI-2 PRO AE, ADI-2 DAC, and ADI-2 Pro FSR. However, when I run YouTube, I am stressed because of the severe screen and voice disconnection. I also have Chord Electronics Hugo2, which doesn't happen in Hugo. Can't you improve this phenomenon?

17 (edited by KaiS 2023-06-08 08:16:15)

Re: YouTube

audman1993 wrote:

I have an ADI-2 PRO AE, ADI-2 DAC, and ADI-2 Pro FSR. However, when I run YouTube, I am stressed because of the severe screen and voice disconnection. I also have Chord Electronics Hugo2, which doesn't happen in Hugo. Can't you improve this phenomenon?

Is the audio lagging or ahead of the picture?

Are you playing Youtube from a PC?

ADI-2 connected via USB?

Re: YouTube

KaiS wrote:
audman1993 wrote:

I have an ADI-2 PRO AE, ADI-2 DAC, and ADI-2 Pro FSR. However, when I run YouTube, I am stressed because of the severe screen and voice disconnection. I also have Chord Electronics Hugo2, which doesn't happen in Hugo. Can't you improve this phenomenon?

Is the audio lagging or ahead of the picture?

Are you playing Youtube from a PC?

ADI-2 connected via USB?

I am replying to your inquiry.

Q1: Was the audio lagging or was it in front of the picture?
A1: Video is affected simultaneously when audio is disconnected.

Q2: Are you playing YouTube on your PC?
A2: Yes, I'm using Windows 11 OS Desktop & Laptop.
Note that some PCs do not experience this problem, but the difference is the Visual C++ service pack. There may be conflicts with other software using RME Driver and C++.
Please refer to the problem improvement.

Q3: ADI-2 connected via USB?
A3: Yes

19 (edited by KaiS 2023-06-10 15:07:26)

Re: YouTube

audman1993 wrote:

Q1: Was the audio lagging or was it in front of the picture?
A1: Video is affected simultaneously when audio is disconnected.

Ok - you mean complete dropouts of audio AND video!
Similar to what you get with a slow Internet.

If video does dropout too, I don’t see how ADI-2 could be connected to the problem.