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Topic: Is the RME 802 FS the newly upgraded version? 802 FS or UFX II?

I notice that there's FS in the 802 series now. There seems to be no firewire supported. Is it upgraded recently? I noticed some improvements in the analog measurements and of course the SteadyClock FS clock. What are some other differences?

Another question would be that I'm thinking this is going to be superior to UFX II somehow with relatively lower price, so which one do you recommend if I'm getting one for the studio, will there be a FS version for the UFX II as well?

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2 Reply by oli77sch (edited by oli77sch 2023-06-13 08:27:14)

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Re: Is the RME 802 FS the newly upgraded version? 802 FS or UFX II?

Well spotted! Without any announcement suddenly there …?
Anyway UFX series are above the 802 having some features like digital controlled mic preamps, DURec, color display ...

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Re: Is the RME 802 FS the newly upgraded version? 802 FS or UFX II?

oli77sch wrote:

Well spotted! Without any announcement suddenly there …?
Anyway UFX series are above the 802 having some features like digital controlled mic preamps, DURec, color display ...

Thank you for your answer.  I've used UFX II and love the display and DURec and sure UFX II is still a better choice overall but I would really love to see future UFX II also benifit from the ADDA spec that's recently seen on the upgraded 802 FS. I may need to choose between a relatively better ADDA and better functionality for my next though.

UFX II AD SNR 113dB
802FS AD SNR 116dB
UFX II AD THD+N -104dB
802FS AD THD+N -110dB
UFX II DA THD+N -104dB
802FS DA THD+N -110dB

That can actually start to matter in certain conditions.
Still UFX II still have better preamps.

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Re: Is the RME 802 FS the newly upgraded version? 802 FS or UFX II?

The 'future' UFX II exists for some time already. As I mentioned in this forum the UFX III and II have the same analog board, thus the same tech specs. And the new 802 FS has a different board, but the same circuits and AD/DA = tech specs again...

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5 Reply by Finfet (edited by Finfet 2023-06-14 04:33:52)

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Re: Is the RME 802 FS the newly upgraded version? 802 FS or UFX II?

I see, so if my understanding is correct then the spec on paper and product name is not updated but as components are constantly updating in the actual manufacturing, so actual ADDA specs are getting better than claimed? That's great so I may get the UFX II without hesitate. Thank you for making that clear.

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Re: Is the RME 802 FS the newly upgraded version? 802 FS or UFX II?

Yes, you got this right.

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7 Reply by maggie33 (edited by maggie33 2023-06-24 20:03:57)

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Re: Is the RME 802 FS the newly upgraded version? 802 FS or UFX II?

And the new 802 FS has a different board, but the same circuits and AD/DA = tech specs again...

MC, one further question about the three 802 Versions (802 A, 802 E and the new 802 FS):
Untill now it seems, all 3 versions are officially suported. I mean, the drivers and firmware (for 802 A and 802 E) have always been updated and supported (in the same packages). Now the FS has been added.

Will RME keep this in future? So the "old-board" versions will still get updates?

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Re: Is the RME 802 FS the newly upgraded version? 802 FS or UFX II?

maggie33 wrote:

And the new 802 FS has a different board, but the same circuits and AD/DA = tech specs again...

MC, one further question about the three 802 Versions (802 A, 802 E and the new 802 FS):
Untill now it seems, all 3 versions are officially suported. I mean, the drivers and firmware (for 802 A and 802 E) have always been updated and supported (in the same packages). Now the FS has been added.

Will RME keep this in future? So the "old-board" versions will still get updates?

If you look closer or use my Excel comparison sheet (https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=35156, line 28, driver) then you will see that the 802 is using the same USB driver like UCX and UCX II. So, the driver will be updated for the last recent products and thus as well for the 802.

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Re: Is the RME 802 FS the newly upgraded version? 802 FS or UFX II?

Nice chart, ramses. Thank you.

OK - Drivers for the USB connected Fireface variants are same and will be updated. beruhigt wink

But, what about the firmware (Flash)? I mean the fut_usbxxx file.
Current version from last week:
802 A: 20/9/9/12, 802 E: 112/101/101/9, 802 FS: 221/ 212/ 27

Edit: Ok - i compared the fut's with some older ones... Seems the 802 FS is mentioned now. I think i understand now.

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Re: Is the RME 802 FS the newly upgraded version? 802 FS or UFX II?

All RME products have a long product / update cycle and if there should be a bug in the firmware which is fixable, then it becomes fixed.

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Re: Is the RME 802 FS the newly upgraded version? 802 FS or UFX II?

I know about RME's lifecycle strategy... That's exactly the reason why I decided to buy RME interfaces.
I was just a little shocked, when i saw that my 802 does not appear on the products page anymore ;-)

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