1 (edited by WowFlutter 2023-06-23 14:36:22)

Topic: [Resolved] Auto ref behaviour on ADI-2 DAC

ADI-2 DAC has four, 6 dB spaced reference levels: -5, +1, +7 and +13 dBu (RCA output) which can be chosen automatically through the brilliant auto ref feature, in order to optimise S/N ratio for different volume levels.

However, when decreasing volume from 0 dBr down in auto ref mode, I noticed that the changes of the reference level occur at -6.5 dBr from the previous ref point:

from +13 to +7 dBu at -6.5 dBr
from +7 to +1 dBu at -12.5 dBr
from +1 to -5 dBu at -18.5 dBr

It seems that at these transition point the digital volume is always at -0.5 dBFS, which can be verified by switching the auto ref off -  display shows vol -0.5 dB.

ADI-2 Pro FS R BE does not behave like this - no 0.5 dB difference when switching between any of the auto ref levels (+24, +19, +13, +4 dBu).

In effect, in auto ref mode, DAC seems to always be at -0.5 dBFS where it should be at 0 dBFS. Or am I missing something?

ADI-2 DAC FS
ADI-2 Pro FS R BE

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Re: [Resolved] Auto ref behaviour on ADI-2 DAC

I will check if we can change that to work as with the Pro.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: [Resolved] Auto ref behaviour on ADI-2 DAC

MC wrote:

I will check if we can change that to work as with the Pro.

That would be great!

ADI-2 DAC FS
ADI-2 Pro FS R BE

Re: [Resolved] Auto ref behaviour on ADI-2 DAC

MC wrote:

I will check if we can change that to work as with the Pro.

Hi MC,
Would like to know any chance we can get it changed in future update?

Re: [Resolved] Auto ref behaviour on ADI-2 DAC

@MC - curious to know what’s the verdict on this? Do you recognise it as a bug and will give us the 0.5 dB back ;-), or do you need this volume trim for a reason when auto-switching between levels on the DAC?

ADI-2 DAC FS
ADI-2 Pro FS R BE

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Re: [Resolved] Auto ref behaviour on ADI-2 DAC

We simply have more important things to do right now. But it's on our list.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

7 (edited by Johannes AU 2023-03-24 06:29:33)

Re: [Resolved] Auto ref behaviour on ADI-2 DAC

MC wrote:

We simply have more important things to do right now. But it's on our list.

Dear MC, can understand that.

When you have time to look at the firmware of the Dac, please also kindly check if the B/T behaviour changed after the update to +-12dB range, I felt it different to former +-6dB, that said it sounds different to my ears, for example, turn to +4dB sounds less bass than before with +-6dB range.

The feelings are the same at auto ref on or off

B/T parameters at default factory value.

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Re: [Resolved] Auto ref behaviour on ADI-2 DAC

MC wrote:

But it's on our list.

Great, thanks!

ADI-2 DAC FS
ADI-2 Pro FS R BE

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Re: [Resolved] Auto ref behaviour on ADI-2 DAC

The latest firmware v80 53 for the ADI-2 DAC (released with support for the new ADI-2 series remote app) changes the AutoRef mode as requested in post 1. Note that this change does not apply to the first generation ADI-2 DAC with AK4490. These units do not have digital headroom, the AutoRef mode was intentionally switching 0.5 dB eralier to avoid possible overloads.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: [Resolved] Auto ref behaviour on ADI-2 DAC

Great follow-up, thanks!

ADI-2 DAC FS
ADI-2 Pro FS R BE