1 (edited by FD10 2024-03-25 22:52:41)

Topic: Prism Orpheus with Digiface USB / Headphone Out's / S/PD?F OUT

Hello,

I have an important question, I would like to use a Prism Sound Orpheus with a Digiface USB via ADAT İN/OUT.

In this case, can I continue to use the headphone outs of the Prism Orpheus as well as the S/PDİF out of the Prism Orpheus to which I want to connect my Neumann KH 750?

I hope you can give me an answer to this promptly.

Many thanks in advance.

I look forward to your answers.

2 (edited by oli77sch 2024-03-26 09:16:30)

Re: Prism Orpheus with Digiface USB / Headphone Out's / S/PD?F OUT

Hi
Do you mean Digiface USB as interface and the Orpheus as standalone device?
The answer would be: yes, as long the Orpheus works without a connection to the computer and can store the needed channel routing and clock settings.
EDIT: see here under 'Orpheus hardware' - 'standalone operation': http://www.prismsound.com/music_recordi … index.html

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Re: Prism Orpheus with Digiface USB / Headphone Out's / S/PD?F OUT

Hello oli77sch,

thank you very much for your feedback.

Exactly, I would like to use the RME DIGIFACE USB as an interface and the Orpheus Standalone.

The Orpheus only has a Firewire interface and I don't want to use it with 2..3 adapters FW to TB2 + TB2 to TB3 as I'm not sure whether this would be stable.

The Orpheus can be used as a standalone, but with my current knowledge I couldn't find out if I can still use the headphone outs of the Orpheus and control the monitoring via the monitor controller of the Orpheus.

The Neumann KH750 SUB should also be connected to the S/PDIF out of the Orpheus and be controllable via the front monitor control.

If this is really possible, it would be a dream come true.

Thank you very much in advance.

Re: Prism Orpheus with Digiface USB / Headphone Out's / S/PD?F OUT

The best ones to answer this with certainty are Prism. Or deep study of the manual.

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Re: Prism Orpheus with Digiface USB / Headphone Out's / S/PD?F OUT

Hello,

I have written to Prism Sound about this, but there is only the following from Prism:

Stand-alone operation

It is possible to operate Orpheus without a FireWire connection to a host computer.   This is done by setting up the unit as required using the Orpheus Control Panel applet whilst it is connected to a host computer via its FireWire interface, then placing the unit in standby by pressing the standby button, before disconnecting the unit from the host and power source.  When the unit is re-powered, and detects that no FireWire connection is active, it reloads the settings which were previously stored.

Since all of the outputs have optional mixers within the Orpheus hardware whose inputs include all of Orpheus' input connectors, it is possible, for example, to connect the digital input pair to one or more analogue output pairs, and to mix one or more analogue input pairs to the digital output pair.  The synchronization source and sample rate can be set in the usual way.  Thus stand-alone mode can be used to configure a stand-alone D/A converter and A/D converter, with static mixing if required.

ADAT Direct mode

ADAT Direct mode allows Orpheus to operate as an eight channel analogue-to-ADAT and ADAT-to-analogue converter.  ADAT Direct mode is activated by setting the ADAT control in the Unit Settings panel to 'Direct'.

In ADAT Direct mode it is possible to control Orpheus using the Control Panel applet in the usual way while Orpheus is connected to a host computer via FireWire.  If Orpheus is not connected to a host computer, ADAT Direct mode can still be used as a stand-alone mode, by saving pre-selected settings using the standby button as described above.

Signal routing in ADAT Direct mode

The eight ADAT output (send) channels are fed directly from the eight analogue input channels.  Any signals sent from the host computer over FireWire (if connected) destined for the ADAT outputs are ignored by Orpheus.

The eight channels sent from the host computer over FireWire (if connected) destined for the Orpheus analogue outputs are ignored by Orpheus, and replaced by the eight ADAT input (return) channels.  This means that the analogue output DAW/Mix switch can still be used: in the DAW position, the analogue outputs are fed directly from the ADAT inputs; in the Mix position, the analogue output mixer can be used to mix the ADAT inputs with any of the other Orpheus inputs.

The ADAT inputs and analogue inputs are available to the host computer (if connected) for recording or monitoring if required.  The ADAT outputs and analogue outputs appear to be available to the host computer (if connected) but are ignored by Orpheus.  Orpheus' S/PDIF inputs and outputs, and headphone outputs, remain available to a connected host computer.

In common with all ADAT modes, ADAT Direct mode can only operate with all eight channels if the sample rate is set to 44.1kHz or 48kHz.  At sample rates of 88.2kHz or 96kHz, ADAT Direct mode operates in SMUX mode, supporting only the first four analogue input and output channels.  ADAT Direct mode cannot be selected at sample rates of 176.4kHz or 192kHz.

NOTE: Since ADAT Direct mode modifies Orpheus' normal signal routing, it is very important to ensure that ADAT Direct mode is not selected accidentally.

Re: Prism Orpheus with Digiface USB / Headphone Out's / S/PD?F OUT

FD10 wrote:

Hello,

I have written to Prism Sound about this, but there is only the following from Prism:

Only? What further do you need?
Beside that, it’s the exact same text as you can find in the online manual. I’ve posted the link already…

UCX - FF 400 - Babyface pro - Digiface USB - ADI-2 (original)
Mac mini M1 - Macbook pro - iPad Air2