Topic: continuation of the previous rant over sound quality of UCX II
So while I'm waiting for my other non rme gear to come in or maybe even make a mistake of buying more rme hardware to remedy something that shouldn't be a problem in the first place I decided to measure things....
I was bored and also a second ucx ii unit arrived that I finally could look at and see if my sound quality concerns were true. I mean I think they are true. Also I don't understand why even though I did say I closed the previous post it was removed because I openly stated the fact that my best solution consideration was probably to pick a competitive mixing like solution akin to minidsp, uad or even maybe motu.
While this pile of garbage is not addressed in fireface series however probably (I assume) it was fixed or improved with dacs with non AKM chips like DAC 2-FS & 2/4 SE something...
Anyways, Here are some results vs uac-232:
I plugged in output ucx-2 of 3/4 to input 1 and output of zoom uac-232 to input 2. (the output signals were level matched at 1khz test tone to around 1/10-1/100 precision)
This is at 1khz test tone:
This is by far the worst case scenario for ucx2 it seems, other results will favor ucx2 however I'll get to the point of the first result and why I think this result is important. (which I also did numerous times and came out with the same diff)
Takeaways:
I think what is important here is how easy it is to miss a crucial difference between ucx2 and uac-232 in results and simply call uac-232 inferior esp once you look at 60hz test and say wow it's so non-linear in the highs. Yes, however.
When you look at 1khz this is probably where significant difference I end up hearing is in the full mix. I'm sure these single tone harmonic distortion graphs are far from the most perfect method to measure exactly the difference I hear. But damn is UCX II muddy, unclear, blurry in the highs. It's quite unfortunate. I can obviously look through the internet and see a lot of so called audio n***ds call it velety or something, but I wanna be clear. This is more than just cope. This AKM sound is just bad. It only sounds good in the mids and lows (from my subjective experience) and it sounds very muddy and dusty in the highs.
This is where I wanna drive a point home and I suggest next revision of UCX II gets an actual chip that should match its markup value of almost 8x of what it's being compared to.
What I hear:
- lows & mids overall are better on UCX II
- lower-highs/upper-mids transients are weaker on the UCX II but better in lows/mids.
- upper-mids/lower-highs are very subpar on UCX II to the point where I would not mix on this device standalone
I think always the best point to start from is looking at devices that drive the entire market aka cheap ones + mass ones (like apple's dac from cirrus logic).
If you could suggest to me to do any other measurements I could, lmk how. I don't know what it is but the range probably around 1-4k if not broader is concerning...
But yeah my overall take is UCX II should sound better than it does esp for the price. Other features and probably when you get the option to bypass DA it's an incredible device, but unfortunately for intended use it only gets half of the way there. I do prefer totalmix overall, it's exactly what I need. The I/O is exactly what I need. The sound??... Oh well... The sound...
Edit:
Even if this is not a DA chip problem then it's even more unfortunate meaning that current circuit design is way too noisy