Topic: Favorite Filter?

What is your favorite filter and why?!

so far, I like Brickwall the most, sounds tight more defined to my ears...

Re: Favorite Filter?

What is the point of this discussion when we don't even have the same set of filters to compare?

Fireface UCX II + ARC USB > ADI-2 Pro FS R BE > Neumann KH 750 DSP + MA 1 > KH 120 A

3 (edited by KaiS 2024-12-02 11:22:10)

Re: Favorite Filter?

For sample rates of 88.2 kHz or higher, all filters sound the same to me.
Their effect is way beyond the audible range then.

For sample rates 44.1 and 48 kHz, my favorites are SD-LD and Brickwall on ESS DAC‘s, and Slow on AKM chipped ones.

SD-LD sounds a bit more “open” than the others.

The standard “Sharp” on both chips has little less differentiation of high instruments, e.g. shakers and hihats tend to sound more like the same.

The difference is subtle, by no means night-and-day.

4 (edited by bashar 2024-12-02 09:23:38)

Re: Favorite Filter?

My understanding the only filter missing from the AKM dac is brickwall, can you share your favourite filter if any and why? Thank you.

5 (edited by hasan.ay386 2024-12-02 09:57:04)

Re: Favorite Filter?

KaiS wrote:

For sample rates of 88.2 kHz or higher, all filters sound the same to me.
Their effect is way beyond the audible range then.

For sample rates 44.1 and 48 kHz, my favorites are SD-LD and Brickwall on ESS DAC‘s, and Slow on AKM chipped ones.

SD-LD sounds a bit more “open” than the others.

The standard “Fast” on both chips has little less differentiation of high instruments, e.g. shakers and hihats tend to sound more like the same.

The difference is subtle, by no means night-and-day.

i wonder why the SD LD filters were replaced by brickwall on ESS DACs.
And the new SD LD filter in the ADI-2/4 Pro is no longer the same as in the AKM Units.

6 (edited by KaiS 2024-12-02 13:58:42)

Re: Favorite Filter?

I have ADI-2/4 Pro SE (ESS) and the 1st. Gen. ADI-2 Pro silverface (AKM).

The filters choices available on ADI-2 DAC (AKM and ESS) are a bit different to the Pro’s.
Even same named filters on AKM and ESS are in fact different, either.
This is documented in the manuals, which have the charts for each model.


Finally it’s best advice to listen and find out what’s one’s personal favorite.
A lot of people e.g. seem to like (or tolerate) the foggy aliasing artifacts the NOS filter produces - the opposite of “black background”, admittedly combined with a perfect phase- and impulse-response.
To each his own, and the preferred music style is an additional factor that shouldn’t been underestimated.

Just keep in mind: the filter’s audible effects are subtle and best evaluated at 44.1 kHz sample rate.


Upsampling to higher SR’s BTW doesn’t circumvent the filter question, it just “bakes” the upsampler’s filters into the file.

There are opinions that offline upsampling can be superior to realtime, as longer filter coefficients can be used.
Take this with a grain of salt, I’ve not further evaluated this, aside from practically using high quality offline resampling in my recording studio if necessary.

Still, physics say that frequency-, phase- and impulse-response are inseparable linked together.
You can’t change one without effecting the others.
Filters just differently balance the compromise between these three.

Once an analog source ist digitized with a certain sample rate, what’s removed can’t be brought back.

Re: Favorite Filter?

Since you mentioned this, I am starting to like the top end more with the brick wall filter, NOS sounds the most defined to my ears but with less sizzle…anyhow I am still blown away but the sound quality, it’s like I bought new set of monitors or removed a cardboard wall blocking the old ones!


KaiS wrote:

For sample rates of 88.2 kHz or higher, all filters sound the same to me.
Their effect is way beyond the audible range then.

For sample rates 44.1 and 48 kHz, my favorites are SD-LD and Brickwall on ESS DAC‘s, and Slow on AKM chipped ones.

SD-LD sounds a bit more “open” than the others.

The standard “Sharp” on both chips has little less differentiation of high instruments, e.g. shakers and hihats tend to sound more like the same.

The difference is subtle, by no means night-and-day.