Topic: Babyface Pro + Digiface USB

Can these devices be routed to one another through the PC? Or is all of this done locally only? I'd like to use the analog in from the Babyface Pro. For sync I do have two ADAT ports available on the Digiface USB and the two on the Babyface Pro (if that's something required - it seems it would be)

Re: Babyface Pro + Digiface USB

with a DAW (Reaper) you can receive and send from one interface to another when the computer system allows to use different audio interfaces at the same time.
You also need a toslink cable to have on sync to the other.
One is master, clock-mode internal, the other one has clock-mode external Adat optical.

M1-Sequoia, Madiface Pro, Digiface USB, Babyface silver and blue

3 (edited by ramses 2025-01-21 09:04:55)

Re: Babyface Pro + Digiface USB

I think you use the Digiface USB as main interface and clock master.

The BBF Pro you can connect via ADAT, you need two TOSLINK cables. The 2nd one towards the BBF Pro is mainly for clock synchronization, so that the BBF Pro as slave can get clock through its ADAT Input. But you can also use it to route audio to the BBF pro, to use e.g. its analog outputs. It might be practical for getting a 2nd headphones output.

The two interfaces use two different drivers; therefore, it is not possible under Windows to use both interfaces at the same time:
- Digiface USB - MADIface driver
- BBF Pro - USB driver

Please note: I would not use 3rd party solutions like ASIO4ALL because then you introduce another ASIO layer on top of the two ASIO drivers. Then you create an unsupported setup. The goal of ASIO drivers is, to have the lowest latencies and stability. If you put a driver layer on top of it, you are weakening this concept, if there is an issue, this cannot be supported as nobody knows whether this is an RME driver or ASIO4ALL issue, and you introduce additional latency.

Regarding stand-alone mode details, please read the manual chapter 30 and 33.2.

I think I would install the two drivers and connect both interfaces, then both are operable via TM FX.
It has the additional advantage, that you do not need a PSU for stand-alone operation (see ch 30).

In the DAW, you only load the driver of the main interface.

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, M-1620 Pro D, RayDAT, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10

Re: Babyface Pro + Digiface USB

ramses wrote:

The two interfaces use two different drivers; therefore, it is not possible under Windows to use both interfaces at the same time:
- Digiface USB - MADIface driver
- BBF Pro - USB driver

I would clarify a bit. One may use the both interfaces at the same time on computer. But one cannot use the both interfaces at the same time in DAW and most programs.

As Ramses writes, no problem to have the both interfaces in TotalMix and have full controll of them.

FF UCX II, Digiface USB, Babyface Pro FS

Re: Babyface Pro + Digiface USB

Thanks for the info, it's been very helpful smile
I'll read that section of the manual (and probably more)

The Babyface Pro actually has a "Fireface" driver too (it looks like the "Madiface Series Settings" in the task bar, controls its optical section)


Another question I have since I started setting things up is this:

SPDIF outs and ADAT outs - is the latency (at the optical out) the same if the sample rate is the same? Say SPDIF is 2x 48kHz and ADAT is 8x 48kHz. Or does the SPDIF need to be set to 192kHz to match? This is for potential analog outs from the ADAT and SPDIF being combined later - will they be in phase if the SPDIF DAC's latency is the same as the ADAT device?
(disregard the Babyface Pro being used simultaneously for this - I don't think I'm going that route, probably adding another (identical) 8+8 ADAT to the last remaining optical port of the Digiface)