Sorry, not possible for existing products...

Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME

Hello,

the new TotalMix FX is a completely new software and - as the name says - supports the FX included in the Babyface (EQ, Reverb, Echo). As the Babyface and the UC share the same driver the UC will have the new TotalMix surface/design too, but  - obviously - without any effects.

All other hardware will stay with the current TotalMix, which we continue to support and to improve.

That's too bad for Fireface FW owners ...
I remember there was an update of a rewrite (TotalMix 3.0) promised some time ago.
It's a pity we don't get to benefit from the (hopefully) improved ergonomics and functionality (aside from DSP fx of course).

Great!

All in-house. RME quality. ADI-96 Pro did this already, now we reworked and expanded everything with amazing results. Especially the reverb is on a level that we are really proud of.

There's Mathias presenting the new Totalmix here (at the end) http://www.musotalk.de/event-reports/vi … -babyface/
It not only really looks great, the layout is much clerarer. The ability to set channels to 'narrow' mode is a nice addition too.
When asked by the journalist if previous devices can benefit from the new TotalMix (I don't understand German very well but i think i got this) he states that people need to 'upgrade', with a big smile ...
I must admit I'm a little disappointed with this, as one of the reasons I chose RME was long-term support.
You can't expect someone to change his gear one year after buying it, just to get a software update, especially at this price point ...

Yes, Please! :-)

Hi!
As RME always told us that the chips in their interfaces can be freely reprogrammed and updated with a firmware update, why wouldn't it be possible to choose NOT to let the (e.g.) Fireface 800 calculate Peak/RMS volume but instead of that having a few 3-Band EQs (even if it's not in every channel)? On a DSP card (e.g. UAD) you can use the processing power for different things, too. Isn't there enough processing power in the Firefaces? Or would it just be that much work that it doesn't make any sense for RME?
When I bought my Fireface I thought, these programmable chips make it possible to add things like internal FX afterwards. Did I misunderstand the concept of these chips?
There were a few situations in which I had to use software monitoring just because I needed one simple EQ. So even if I could only use one EQ in a channel of my choice in the monitoring path in TotalMix, I could often switch from software monitoring to TotalMix which would be really great.
Can someone explain why such changes are limited to other systems (other than the Fireface 800 for example)?
Thanks a lot!

And by the way: Babyface seems to be a cool product :-)

Always you have been a great support and the one of the best! I sincerely hope that you will allow and make totalmix fx in the near future for all of your products

Do not betray us

Best regards
Ivan

For sure, but as you know, you give a little to the users and they always want more ;o)
So from, we are tempting by this forum (because forums are friendly and we almost knows the admins and developpers), to get more and more !!!!

This is a good relationship between users and producers !

I think there is not much hope that it will be technically possible to add much of the functionality of the new TotalMix FX to an FF800. I looked in mine the "fattest" FPGA inside is a Xilinx XC3S400. Matthias spoke in the youtube video of a new fat FPGA that is not yet available (in quantities). The current top of the line of the Spartan series has about 20 times more Logic Blocks ... not to speak of the nice Virtex-series from Xilinx which can add another factor 10, has an embedded PowerPC core ..., but it is not to be assumed ,even with RME ;-)  that a chip is used that is more expensive than the product.

FPGA, of course.

This is a completely rewritten software, written directly for the Babyface. Therefore we will add a few updates to the old TotalMix over time, but not provide the new one for every old product (and that includes even reference products like the RayDAT or MADI cards). It's simply much too much work.

Can we expect then a new ff800 hardware(MK2 for example)with a new rewritten totalmix fx?

I don't understand why the FF400 UC is able to get the new TotalMix and not The FF400 firewire. If the 'name' of these 2 hardwares is the same, we can imagine that only the way of transmitting datas is different (firewire vs usb).

In the other case it would mean that FF400UC is different from the FF400 condisdering the internal architecture.

What about this question ?

Please do incorporate as much of the new functionality of Totalmix FX as is possible into the existing Totalmix software. Most immediate is the larger channels and increased visibility of the new layout. I know this would be very beneficial to my own workflow, as I'm sure it would be for many others usinf the older Totalmix. I love the software as is, but I have definitely desired a better visual layout (as with the newer FX version) on numerous occasions. Aside from this though, if it were possible to incorporate the fader grouping and undo, I would be an even more happy RME customer, and feel that RME def strives to have the back of it's customer base.

No. There has been some rewriting and easter holidays, so maybe next week or thereafter.

Hi all.

I was just about to purchase a Fireface UC when the Babyface came out ("just about" meaning preparing to leave my house and go to the store when the Musikmesse RSS feed got updated...) Now I'm totally confused. I hesitated a long time between the FFUC and the MOTU 828mk3, because of the MOTU's built-in reverb which would have saved me lots of headaches. But everyone (reviews, forums, salespersons) went so wild about RME products that I (almost) decided to take the plunge.

When the Babyface came out, I searched and found this thread, trying to figure out if, and when, RME was going to add the TotalMix FX DSP features to some of the current lineup (FF800, FFUC...) Apparently this is not going to happen ("Therefore we will add a few updates to the old TotalMix over time, but not provide the new one for every old product"). Or am I wrong?

If I'm wrong, is there *any* way for RME to define a *vague* timeframe for future, multichannel interfaces similar to the current lineup, but with onboard DSP? 2, 12, 24 months? I've put my entire project studio upgrade on hold because of this (and also because Avid bought Euphonix, but that's another story...)

Thanks for your enlightment.