thanks, i thought the driver was running through the settings tool or something. and please consider that not all your customers are as advanced as others posting here. just because i use this forum doesn't mean that i'm an it-expert. BUT i paid about 900 euros for my rme product. just sayin.

Combination of Snow Leopard 10.6.3 and FF800 2.6.6 DOES NOT solve the problem.

It's not working on my system.
Details below.

1. turn the mac on
2. turn the FF800 on
3. start logic
4. everything woks fine
5. quit logic.
6. turn the FF800 off
7. turn the FF800 on
8. start logic
9. logic hangs at splash screen with "initializing core audio"

nothing helps, just rebooting

Thanks for the update.

/K

Hi Matthias,
Great to hear.... Let's hope they (Apple) dedicate some resources to it.

hm....

as far i tested my FF400 (2.66) on 10.6.3 Macpro 4.1 2x2,26 makes no problems ....sleepig no issues ..apps no issues so far ....

the only thing i have is that the FF400 can not be connected when the OS is running , it leads to total freeze and hard reboot ...

it looked this way ..::

-os is running ...
-FF400 reconecting >> the mixer is loading / everything looks good as normal (audiomidi steup is switching to FF400 automaticly) but on first sound i want play the OS freezes totaly ...

im moving a lot ....so it would be great not to reboot every time i want run the FF400 ...

ive tested it on macbook pro 15" 2007? and macpro 4.1

Got my mac pro back this morning, virtually rebuilt; thank heavens still under warranty, and they fitted a "new" logic board - again! Updated the new 10.6.3 update and things appear to be fine. So my RME/hanging apps/kernel panics and associated problems would appear to be resolved.

My advice to other users on the forum who continue to have problems is this: from my own experience it would be unwise to assume that you don't have hardware issues! What has been made crystal clear to me over the last 5 months is, what started out as an apparent software issue - all working fine until snow leopard installed - developed into hardware issues. Possibly these were caused by the severity of the crashes etc, perhaps allied to SL and maybe even faulty elements within the mac, who knows? I made the point a while back that it is very plausible that one problem developed into another, and another, then another, until all the testing and attempts to resolve the issue becomes pointless. As no-one has yet given me a satisfactory explanation as to what went on with my mac pro, I'm now convinced the problems were apple, not RME. Not trying to win brownie points here, but it seems odd, don't you think, that suddenly 10.6.3 appears to have resolved the issues for some users!

It does not seem very logical to me that a software problem can develop into hardware problem (but everything is possible).
My FF800 still works great and the only problem is turning it off and on while Mac is running. So there is some "wake up" driver problem as I can see it.
And I agree with you that it is very likely Apples firewire driver that is a problem (I was testing TC electronic Konnekt Live resulting in more or less same problems. On the other hand I did not test it on OSX 10.5 so I can not say that it is just SL that is a problem)
Personally I think that RME makes great hardware (and software) and they certainly deserve recognition for their work. On the other hand it looks like RME act in panic when publishing drivers that are not tested.
So my suggestion would be, do not come with a new driver if you did not identify a problem and solved it . It would be much better to come with some comments on the forum, and do it more often, so that we can follow what is happening.

Any new from Apple, Matthias?

S2

Guys - my i7 iMac was suffering from the same symptoms (OS X 10.6.3 with FF 800 latest driver) However, with a new update to snow leopard (some patch that corrects the core utilization in regards to audio - probably the same as that for the mac pro) everything works flawlessly! Turned FF on and off multiple times - the computer does not freeze.

So this pretty much has to do with Apple's SL bugs - hope the rest of you find solutions soon.

2008 Mac Pro, Fireface 800, Snow Leopard, RME 2.66

Same freezing issues when turned on as mentioned previously.

What a nuisance.............this piece of gear is great!

Hope this get's resolved soon!

Wait a minute...............did that horse just twitch ?   

Just had my first grim experience of this hang, entirely my own fault I should add but none the less it was a nightmare, simply because I was copying a 460GB folder from one drive to another at the time I turned off all my peripherals as I started to copy this file which was going to take roughly 2hrs. After about an hour I went back to my kit and switched the FF800 back on and the driver seemed to load up as the red light went out however, upon starting Logic it got stuck at the core audio part and my computer was then rendered useless, resulting in a hard restart which in turn managed to corrupt the disk I was copying too. Fortunately, a second disk repair with disk utility appears to have fixed it, but it just goes to show how disruptive this problem is! I never usually turn my kit off whilst OSX is running, but then today hasn't been a usual day for me at all really Lets hope Apple can sort it. Cheers.

Hello Simulacra

i never do restart! instead i turn on and off my mac,and when i turn off my FF400 i turn off and then on my mac if i need the FF400 for use again,and also i don't use sleep mod.

and i never have any freeze,my FF400 connected with firewire 400 to 800 cable,and i use the power supply!

(logic 9.1.1 - under 10.6.3)

Had another hang this morning. Here's a brief description of the issue for me.

1. Started up machine after powering on all interfaces including RME FF800 and Digi 003R.
2. Noticed I was not getting any audio playback from the FF800, so checked the 'Fireface Settings' app and noticed it was displaying properties for 'Fireface800 (AB7)', when normally it comes up as (9B7), so I turned off the unit and turned it back on again. It comes up as (9B7), but then the entire machine goers into a gradual hang with apps not responding etc. Eventually the Finder hangs and a full hard reset of the machine (8Core 2.8 MacPro) is required.

Hi Matthias,
The only time I ever have this serial issue, is when the 003R is present on the same buss and the FF800 and 003R are cold starting. (not very often. (never have it if I leave the Digi rack turned off)
I had it occurring a while back when I was starting the MacPro at exactly the same time as the racks containing the FF800 and Digi interfaces.
I totally agree re the communication problem, but it seems to be a 'we are not quite ready yet' initialisation process going on... The Digi rack makes a lot of relay clicks in its boot up procedure and if the Mac starts up before this has finished, things go pear shaped.

Restarting the FF800 in any case, causes my MacPro to lock up.
The FF800 is connected via the 800 bus and the 003R via the 400 bus (though I am aware they are not different busses)

Please stay in your thread with this.

i thought i fixed it by reinstalling the driver, but its still there.
this way its 100% reproducible :
1 - boot the mac with the fireface connected but switched off
2 - start logic and run it with another interface (lets say internal sound)
3 - switch the fireface on while logic is running
4 - change the driver in the settings to fireface
5 - beachball will spin forever- the system freezes

another thing i realized is that the fireface mixer and settings doesnt start automatically when i switch the fireface on while the mac is running already.
but its started when i switch the fireface on before i boot the mac.

Yeah i guess we should only use our RME under windows.

En effet, pas tr?s chaleureux comme r?ponse.

Hallo
sorry no english :-(
denke das ist hier richtig.
hot swap funktioniert bei mir nach neuer Installation des mac os 10.6.3 wieder.
Allerdings nur in dem useraccount, der bei der Installation angelegt wurde.
Bei migriertem oder bei neu angelegtem user funktioniert es nicht wie es vorgesehen ist.
Es wird anscheinend nur der Treiber in den Kernel geladen aber totalmix und settings werden nicht gestartet.
Vielleicht hilft ja die Info.
Viele Gr??e
Robert Alonso

Hi Kai,

RME told me that the panel & mixer should still pop up at the start, so yes its a bug.
restart twice seems weird, do you have the FF switched on at the first reboot ?
try to start the FF first and then boot the mac - this way it should always work.
also i have no problems with assigning the FF to the system in AudioMidi Setup.
did you use AudioMidi or systemsettings-ton ?

So, no news at all? Driver developing is stopped? Is Apple saying something?

s2

I see, so yes, I have that bug, too.

The fireface was switched on from the start and powered through the external PSU.

AudioMidi setup? to use it for system output, you need to assign it in the Sound system preference pane, though. And then iTunes simply wouldn't play.

I wish I hadn't sold my Mackie Satellite. it sounds noisy, has no headroom and the preamps whine. But at least it doesn't crash my machine.

Kai

hello Feuergesicht,

thats good to read !
where can i download this driver ?