1 Topic by Stevie (edited by Stevie 2009-10-23 00:50:30)

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Topic: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Hi all,

I didn't really like the loopback cable approach to control the volume of the
Total Mix. So instead, I wanted to control the volume with my computer keyboard
via MIDI controller. To my knowledge, the only program being capable to route
MIDI controller data to keyboard is AutoHotKey. Since I have very little knowledge
about the MIDI API in AHK, the developer of GenMce (http://shoshin.110mb.com/genmce/)
helped me to realize this application. Kudos to him, he coded the whole application.
I only added the mute function.

So what you basically have is:

- Volume Up
- Volume Down
- Volume Mute

assigned to the corresponding multimedia keys on your keyboard.
We're still in development of the app. The basic functionality is
implemented but I want to integrate an OSD for the volume/mute state.
Oh,  and I forgot to mention... you need to install MIDI YOKE (a virtual MIDI
port driver) to make this work. Works on x64 as well, since Total Mix is a
32bit app (thanks RME tongue).

So, stay tuned for the release! (no date yet)


Cheers,

Stevie

2 Reply by Paps4 (edited by Paps4 2009-10-23 13:13:54)

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Could someone, or rme perhaps, build something like that for Mac OS X?  It would be really useful to be able to control volume from our mac keyboards, external usb devices (non midi) etc... It would also occasionally  remove the need for a mixer between rme and active speakers, when space / mobility is an issue!

If it had the posibility of being assignable to any / all monitor outs, the better!

m-audio seems to have done this with their control panel software, built in...

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

You could try this tool, not sure if it works though. No Mac here.
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/10541

  • Registered: 2009-11-12
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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Hello Stevie,
Even i wanted to do this stuff but because of the busy schedule i was not
able to fix my volume control. I m not comfortable that everytime i have
to loop back the cable if i want to control the volume. I also want this type
of control can you guide me so i can even use this control. IF you can than
please reply to my post.

5 Reply by scott1234 (edited by scott1234 2009-12-12 05:54:49)

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Paps4 wrote:

It would also effectively remove the need for a mixer between rme and active speakers, when space / mobility is an issue!

If it had the posibility of being assignable to any / all monitor outs, the better!

m-audio seems to have done this with their control panel software, built in...

Yes RME, how hard can this be? Implementing just an emergency ALL sound off via keyboard or MIDI command at least. Most cheap passive units like the SM Pro Audio M-Patch 2 are horrible when turned down anyway and screw with the stereo filed at low volume.
And the units that are good start around $1,000 http://www.mercenary.com/coaum3mk.html
And go all the way up to $3-6,000 for a crane song!

Volume up/down and emergency kill all audio would be wonderful for people to go HDSP directly to active monitors without having to drop $1,000 on a quality passive box. Surely if M-audio can achieve this simple bit of code, RME can.

6 Reply by Stevie (edited by Stevie 2010-03-16 20:51:28)

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Hey guys,

sorry for not popping in here for a while. I'm back on the project and will release it soon.
The good news: I bought myself a Griffin PowerMate and it's a finger snip to control the volume
of TotalMix with this device!

Catch ya soon!

Stevie

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Hi Stevie!
  I'm glad that you're back now.eventhough I didn't participate on the discussions, I keep myself updated with your thread.I learn a lot from it.Thanks for your post!


Best Regards,
william

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

You're welcome!

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Okay, it's DONE smile

TotalKeyMix 1.0. Go and get it! http://www.stephanroemer.net/downloads/totalkeymix/
Installation instructions are down there smile

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Nice thing. I also like the use of Autohotkey. wink

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Hey Timur! Glad you like it! smile

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Hey Stevie, thanks for the tool.
However I have a problem that might be simple to solve.
On my HDSPe the TotalKeyMix can control only the first pair of channels and I need to control multiple of them at the same time.
Yes I did group them, they are all yellow below, but they move together only if I use a mouse on one of the channels.
Btw with the other similar tool on this forum it worked fine but that tool has other issues (tied to master volume control and does not remember MIDI selection).

Thanks.

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Hey nuhi,

I just checked the manual, apparently the other faders are controlled by different midi channels and control changes.
Do you control ALL faders at the bottom at the same time? I could implement that all faders are affected when controlling
the volume.

Cheers,

Stevie

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Unfortunately I don't attenuate all of them since some of the channels are for loopback VST ASIO plugin processing.
Maybe you can capture the MIDI group commands while moving the bars with the mouse, having multiple channels grouped.
It may simply be that the MIDI group has its own target name.
If it is not possible then maybe a configuration in the GUI like checkboxes for which channels to control.

Btw this tool does it correctly, maybe you can capture that MIDI command:
http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3780

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

I just checked WVR. This is really strange. It sends pitch bend data according to my midi monitor program. Could anyone of RME shed some light on this?
Pitch bend isn't mentioned in the TotalMix manual.

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Pitch bend = Mackie Protocol =

http://home.comcast.net/~robbowers11/MCMap.htm

Regards
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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Hey Matthias,

thanks! Didn't know this was Mackie Control mode.

@nuhi
I could indeed incoroporate this feature, but I'm not sure when. I'm pretty busy atm.
However you could check Kip's tool (he helped me a great deal with TotalKeyMix):
http://oneleaf.heliohost.org/wp/

It's a *complete* Mackie Control for keyboard.

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Re: New Total Mix volume control utility for XP/Vista/7

Anybody found a sophisticated solution for native mac volume control?

Matthias, what about RME, are you finally able to do that?

Thanks a lot!